Declined Report: 76561198160654201 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198160654201

Victim profile: 76561198862498780

What happened? Description:

On September 28 of this year, Jordgey sent me a message on steam asking to buy my TF2 unusual and some other items for 110 dollars in total (PayPal). And than we hire a "middleman" on this website ( https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditGamingTrades/wiki/index/ ). The trading went from 7 items to about everything valuable in my inventory for 300 dollars. However this price skyrockets to 700 dollars because his PayPal doesn't work on anything less than that. So now I have to pay for about 150 dollars worth of keys which my bank thankfully declined. But after I tell the middleman I cannot pay 150 keys and It would have to be 300 dollars or no deal. So I pay for 50 keys on the marketplace because my card declined on the third party sites and my broke ass cannot afford 100 more keys. So I end up canceling the trade and I have to pay about 50 keys (the trading period on the steam market passed today) to CANCEL THE TRADE! The rest after this is me being a ✿✿✿✿✿✿ apologizing to the scammer and trying to get my items back, and my stupid ass did not realize until one week my items are GONE. I checked the backpack.tf of these two individuals and I see that my items are already transferred before I myself canceled the interaction myself using my 50 keys. My unusual now belongs to someone completely different and my items are just spread out across backpack.tf. The messages I sent in the steam chat is me trying to buy time to screenshot the chat logs while we are still "friends".

Additional information: Liam is the guy who bought the keys for me, I gave him 100 dollars irl to buy me the keys. The items that were lost will be in my trade history logs I sent.

Please if you have any questions do not be afraid to ask! The backpack.tf links are these:

My old invo: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198862498780?time=1676419200
My new Invo https://next.backpack.tf/profiles/76561198862498780

Jordgey invo at the time: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199519549100?time=1695872432
Jordgey Present Invo: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199519549100?time=1696377600

Here is the "buyer's" information, he unfriended me after the trade so I do not know how to get his chat logs with me. Do you know how to? I would gladly send you these if I had it.
Name: Jorgdey
Community ID: 76561199519549100
Steam 2: STEAM_0:0:779641686
Steam 3: [U:1:1559283372]
Profile URL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/JorgdeyMM/
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199519549100​

Provide Evidence:

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Hello?
How may i help you ?

[9/27/2023, 8:24 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
yo
a middle man right?

[9/27/2023, 8:24 PM]
:
Need a Middleman service for a cashing out trades ?

[9/27/2023, 8:24 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
Yes

[9/27/2023, 8:24 PM]
:
Alright. Who is your dealing with ?

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
I have the items and other has the money

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
:
I mean, who is your dealing partner with ?

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
the jorgdey guy has the money, did you add him back?

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
:
Okay this person ?
Steam Community :: Jorgdey
Authentic Marketing is not the art of Selling what you make,But knowing what to make.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Jorgdey/

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
yes

[9/27/2023, 8:25 PM]
:
Alright accepted and i will create a GroupChat so we can talk further, okay ?

[9/27/2023, 8:26 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
yessir

[9/27/2023, 8:33 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
You sent a new trade offerView trade offer

[9/27/2023, 8:38 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
You sent a new trade offerView trade offer

[9/27/2023, 9:29 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
You sent a new trade offerView trade offer
did you get my items? just checking in @Raiden

[9/27/2023, 9:35 PM]
:
I accept 45 items.

[9/27/2023, 9:35 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
Yes

[9/27/2023, 10:50 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
sir we have slight issue

[9/27/2023, 10:50 PM]
:
Yes what is it ?

[9/27/2023, 10:50 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
can i request my items back and can we cancel the trade?
is there any consequences like a fee?

[9/27/2023, 10:51 PM]
:
Any problem ?

[9/27/2023, 10:51 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
he changed the trade too many times, I cant keep up the trade anymore

[9/27/2023, 10:51 PM]
:
Cancellation transaction will be a cost.
And i cant easily to cancel your deal because this transaction has been recorded and monitored by the other Middleman's.
And my reputation as a Middleman is also involve here.
Please don't do any BS here.

[9/27/2023, 10:52 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
Ill pay the fee
also how much?

[9/27/2023, 10:53 PM]
:
Cancellation fees will be up to 50 Keys because to much hassle if ill cancel your deal without your both permission.
This is recorded transaction.
And our Admin also monitoring this.
I dont accept cash for my service fees.
I only take Keys.
Do you understand ?

[9/27/2023, 10:54 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
one sec

[9/27/2023, 11:02 PM]
:
Still here ?

[9/27/2023, 11:02 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
one moment
my head hurts from this guy

[9/27/2023, 11:02 PM]
:
What happen ?

[9/27/2023, 11:02 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
from 110 to 300 to 700
let me get my thoughts
im sorry

[9/27/2023, 11:03 PM]
:
You want me to add him again on GC?
And you will continue your deal ?

[9/27/2023, 11:04 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
one moment

[9/27/2023, 11:04 PM]
:
Okay
Let me ask you.
Are you scared about this transaction ?

[9/27/2023, 11:06 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
minorly

[9/27/2023, 11:06 PM]
:
Yes?

[9/27/2023, 11:06 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
yes

[9/27/2023, 11:06 PM]
:
Well, you dont have to worry on this deal because im here as your Middleman.
And im on your side because like what i said.
Seller is only my top priority here which is you.
So you are 101% safe here.
You wont lose anything here.
Because i am the one who will hold your items not him.
So youll be safe to me.
Im talking to him right now.
He said, he wants you to buy a 150 TF2 keys ?
And he will send the 700USD on your PayPay ?
To complete your deal.
Im correct ?

[9/27/2023, 11:13 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
that is what he told us, the problem is that I do not have the cash available right now to buy that amount of keys. this deal was inteneted to get money to do stuff with said money. I do not have any money to spent on 300 dollars of keys
i dont have 5 dollars right now to even spend it
thats starbucks right there
a water to be exact

[9/27/2023, 11:13 PM]
:
Well, He screenshot all your conversation to me.
I read it all.
Dont do any BS, okay?

[9/27/2023, 11:14 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
I am not

[9/27/2023, 11:14 PM]
:
Okay in that case.
Just pay my service fees and for the cancellation in your deal.
And no more wasted of time will happen.
I think both of you are not serious about your deal.
Pay me and dont bother me again.
All your items will be return to you.
Got it ?

[9/27/2023, 11:15 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
how much exactly do I owe you?

[9/27/2023, 11:16 PM]
:
Your buyer will pay for it if you continue your deal but he said, you dont want it anymore and you are just a wasted our time here.
50 Keys as i said.

[9/27/2023, 11:17 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
he continued to change the price and wouldn't pay it because of some sort of transaction issue

[9/27/2023, 11:17 PM]
:
But if you want to continue your deal, i will assure you that if your buyer fail again to send the money to you, he will get reported and his account will getting permanent BANNED
And you dont need to pay my service fees.
But all your items will be return to you.
Your choice.

[9/27/2023, 11:20 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
We'll continue the deal in under one circumstance, we trade the items we have given you right now for the paypal value of 300 dollars which the items are worth. He has said previously that he couldnt send 300 dollars because he has to send a minimum amount to even trade. I would love to continue the trade he just needs to send the money. Everything is already in place, I just need the money

[9/27/2023, 11:20 PM]
:
I mean, continue for the 700USD.
Not for 300.
Is it yes or no?
Should i add him again on GroupChat to continue your deal or not ?
He keep saying 700USD
And you keep saying 300USD
Thats why im here and talking to you and him.
To complete your deal.
Without getting a trouble.
And if you have doubt on me to continue your deal.
Kindly check me out here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditGamingTrades/wiki/index/
I am the first person as a Listed Middleman there.
Click my URL there so you would know that you are dealing with real me.
Not a fake Impersonator or Impostor.
And i will take a risk my reputation as a Middleman for just an items or your items because i can earn a lot of money using my Service/Job.
Understood ?

[9/27/2023, 11:25 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
Yes

[9/27/2023, 11:26 PM]
:
What should we do now ?
I will add him again on GroupChat ?
To continue your deal or what ?

[9/27/2023, 11:26 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
one second

[9/27/2023, 11:26 PM]
:
Okay.

[9/27/2023, 11:26 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
im figuring out stuff

[9/27/2023, 11:27 PM]
:
Which stuff.

[9/27/2023, 11:27 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
trying to get my bank to pay for 300 dollars worth of keys

[9/27/2023, 11:27 PM]
:
Okay just hit me up

[9/27/2023, 11:40 PM]
:
Still on it ?

[9/27/2023, 11:41 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
yes

[9/27/2023, 11:41 PM]
:
Okay

[9/27/2023, 11:44 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
i have the keys, one problem
they are not tradable yet

[9/27/2023, 11:44 PM]
:
Huh?

[9/27/2023, 11:44 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
steam marketplace

[9/27/2023, 11:44 PM]
:
Where did you get them ?

[9/27/2023, 11:45 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
i tried mannco
i tried skinsomething
dont work

[9/27/2023, 11:45 PM]
:
Steam market ?

[9/27/2023, 11:45 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
banked denied because of suspcious activity
only thing that works in steam
because ive bought games on steam
I have a history with them

[9/27/2023, 11:45 PM]
:
I dont see any keys in your inventory.
Well, in that case we need to wait 7days.

[9/27/2023, 11:46 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
so we wait 7 days
right?

[9/27/2023, 11:47 PM]
:
Up to you
But i dont see any keys in your inventory
Where they are ?

[9/27/2023, 11:47 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
in another account needed to be transfered
do you want proof?

[9/27/2023, 11:47 PM]
:
Can i take a look.

[9/27/2023, 11:48 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
Steam Community :: Liam
No information given.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198067210459/

[9/27/2023, 11:48 PM]
:
Liam's inventory is currently private.

[9/27/2023, 11:48 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
im pretty sure if you look these keys are freshly bought

[9/27/2023, 11:48 PM]
:
Its private

[9/27/2023, 11:48 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
try again or refresh?

[9/27/2023, 11:49 PM]
:
50 Keys ?

[9/27/2023, 11:49 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
its 50 for now to deal with your transaction fee
im broke bro

[9/27/2023, 11:50 PM]
:
So you dont want to continue your deal ?
I will tell to him then.

[9/27/2023, 11:50 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
it could be up to 150 but i dont have that money yet
either way its 7 days of waiting

[9/27/2023, 11:51 PM]
:
Okay, that keys is only for my service fees ?
And you dont want to continue your deal ?

[9/27/2023, 11:53 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
no we cancel deal because its been changed too many times
i cant get 150 keys only 50

[9/27/2023, 11:53 PM]
:
Okay i will tell to him.
See you when they are tradable.
I will close this transaction now.

[9/27/2023, 11:53 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
your transaction fee was so high im losing 100 dollars

[9/27/2023, 11:54 PM]
:
Hmm not really.

[9/27/2023, 11:54 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
how so?
50 keys a hundo and ten

[9/27/2023, 11:54 PM]
:
You both came to my service.
This is not my problem.
Im just trying to help you both here
But you came here for a trouble.

[9/27/2023, 11:55 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
we did not

[9/27/2023, 11:55 PM]
:
Its not my fees its for cancellation in your transaction.
I told you to finish your deal so dont need to pay for my service fees.
Because your buyer will pay for it.

[9/27/2023, 11:55 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
we wouldnt have paid this high for the normal interaction

[9/27/2023, 11:56 PM]
:
But you wanted to cancel it.

[9/27/2023, 11:56 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
your transaction key is 5 percent

[9/27/2023, 11:56 PM]
:
Well, Its not my problem.
Its not for fees, its for cancellation.

[9/27/2023, 11:56 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
whats the difference?

[9/27/2023, 11:56 PM]
:
Too many difference
When you become a Middleman you will understand that.
See you for now.

[9/27/2023, 11:57 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
youre scamming me?

[9/27/2023, 11:57 PM]
:
Scamming you ?
For ?
If you think im scamming you

[9/27/2023, 11:57 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
taking 100 dollars worth of items and not giving them back you get paid?

[9/27/2023, 11:57 PM]
:
Well, up to you

[9/27/2023, 11:58 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
its proven though
not up to me

[9/27/2023, 11:58 PM]
:
Giving you back ?
If ill give them back now
You will run?
Im not here to ruin my reputation.
If you dont want to pay for my service fees
Up to you
But i can assure that your steam account will getting BANNED.

[9/27/2023, 11:59 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
because?

[9/27/2023, 11:59 PM]
:
Even i dont give it back your items.

[9/27/2023, 11:59 PM]
MrDangWangPang:
i did not cause the problem

[9/27/2023, 11:59 PM]
:
You asking me because ?
What you did ?
I will ask you.
What youve done here ?

Thursday, September 28, 2023

[9/28/2023, 12:00 AM]
:
Both of you came to my service
I didnt force you to use it
And now you are trying to ruin my reputation and trolling my service ?
Your buyer remove after i told that your deal wont continue anymore
So tell me, this is my fault ?
Im helping you earlier, i said if you complete your deal, you don need to pay my service fees.
And i told you that yo wont lose anything here
But you choose this.
Not me.
Its your problem not me.
Now if you want your items back, pay for the cancellation and i will send them back.
Thats all.
See you!

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