Accepted Report: 76561198173283695 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198173283695

Victim profile: 76561198283914758

What happened? Description:

He had 10 pages full of reps proving he is a nice trader. After a long conversation I decided to sell my gut knife in exchange for a paysafecard code, but after sending the item he blocked me and never sent the code.​

Provide Evidence:

Cloud: Hey
ItsMadoxx: hey man
Cloud: I saw you're trading a knife, right?
ItsMadoxx: yes ure right
Cloud: I can offer real money, I'm currently restocking and I need a starting knife
ItsMadoxx: no cuz ive to go first
ItsMadoxx: its not safe enough
Cloud: I understand, but we can work something on that going first thing
Cloud: If I can make sure you're trustable I can go first
ItsMadoxx: well im trustworthy
Cloud: How can I be sure though?
ItsMadoxx: im honest
Cloud: Have you done money trades before?
ItsMadoxx: dont know what to tell u im honest its basicly all
Cloud: Can you tell me the price for your knife if we will do this trade?
ItsMadoxx: no cuz these guys tried to scam me
ItsMadoxx: at first the float value 0.08464389
ItsMadoxx: yes one moment pls
Cloud: Ok
ItsMadoxx: i checked on steam analyst
Cloud: Ok, so name your price
ItsMadoxx: its 59.,05
Cloud: 59$?
ItsMadoxx: 59.05 dollar
ItsMadoxx: damn
ItsMadoxx: always these dollar prices
Cloud: You want in euro?
ItsMadoxx: yes im from germany
Cloud: 59$= 52€
Cloud: You can check online if you want
ItsMadoxx: yea
Cloud: How do you want me to pay you?
ItsMadoxx: i prefer psc
Cloud: I have the money in my credit card, but I don't know how to buy psc for you.
ItsMadoxx: but how much are u gonna pay?
Cloud: You need to walk me through the process.
Cloud: how about 50$?
ItsMadoxx: what do u mean?
ItsMadoxx: id make loss
Cloud: Oh yeah your knife has a good float value
Cloud: Do you have any screenshots of it?
ItsMadoxx: yes its close to fn
ItsMadoxx: of what?
ItsMadoxx: my knife?
Cloud: Your knife
ItsMadoxx: i can make a screen
Cloud: Ok
ItsMadoxx: can i send a screen on steam?
Cloud: Upload the screen to steam
Cloud: And I'll check it myself
ItsMadoxx: ok
ItsMadoxx: but its german..
ItsMadoxx: aufbrechmesser means gut knife
Cloud: I only want to see how the knife looks
ItsMadoxx: ok u mean ingame right?
Cloud: Yeah
ItsMadoxx: ok missunderstood
ItsMadoxx: one moment
Cloud: Alright
ItsMadoxx: ive to change the settings
ItsMadoxx: so it takes a couple of mins sry
Cloud: It's ok
Cloud: I just really want to buy your knife so I'll wait
ItsMadoxx: omg
ItsMadoxx: i did it wrong^^
ItsMadoxx: i pressed the windows key + print
ItsMadoxx: ive to press f12
ItsMadoxx: damn
Cloud: It's ok bro
ItsMadoxx: its ok on low graphics?
Cloud: Yeah
ItsMadoxx: ok got it
Cloud: Ok
Cloud: Do you have it uploaded on your steam?
ItsMadoxx: its up
Cloud: I see it
Cloud: Ok bro it looks good for it's condition
ItsMadoxx: yes
Cloud: So how much would you want for it?
ItsMadoxx: about 52 euros
ItsMadoxx: but 50 euros would be ok
Cloud: Ok so let's do 50
Cloud: Can you tell me how to order psc online now?
ItsMadoxx: good question
Cloud: You don't know?
ItsMadoxx: try to google psc online buy
Cloud: Ok hold on
ItsMadoxx: theres a page its called
ItsMadoxx: wkv.com
Cloud: Ok this website's good
Cloud: Ok so let's talk about how are we going to do this
ItsMadoxx: ok so we said u go first i check the code and then i confirm the trade
Cloud: So I'll buy and send first?
ItsMadoxx: i think so
ItsMadoxx: or dont u want to do it this way?
Cloud: I'm just afraid that you'll scam me bro
Cloud: You need to understand me, I just want to buy a knife after a long break from cs
ItsMadoxx: yes i understand an of course i know this feeling
ItsMadoxx: but i dont know what to tell u.
ItsMadoxx: im honest i wont scam you
Cloud: And I actually traded a lot a while back, I've got 10 pages of rep doing these money trades
Cloud: I'm honest I won't scam you too
ItsMadoxx: ok i guess we are both honest but too scared of getting scammed
ItsMadoxx: f✿✿✿✿✿✿ community
ItsMadoxx: no sry f✿✿✿✿✿✿ scammers
Cloud: Yeah f✿✿✿✿✿✿ scammers.
Cloud: They ruined this community
ItsMadoxx: so true
Cloud: We need to think of something
ItsMadoxx: yes
Cloud: Did you see my reputation?
ItsMadoxx: for me its a lot of money im doing a traineeship as an industrial clerk
ItsMadoxx: i wont go first. i lost my first knife
Cloud: Let's think of something
Cloud: What if I buy the code first, but send it after you sent the trade offer?
ItsMadoxx: so you can accept and block me
Cloud: No wait
Cloud: What if
Cloud: When you send the offer I don't accept it first
Cloud: I'm trying to think of the best solution
ItsMadoxx: yes i understand but its too risky
Cloud: It's actually a good solution, because at that point we have to trust each other not just one person
Cloud: In the end you have the code without me having your knife first
ItsMadoxx: you mean i send the offer and dont accept and u send the code and then i accept?
Cloud: I buy the code first, then you send me the offer, I send you the code here and then I accept the offer.
Cloud: It's actually riskier for me then I think about it
ItsMadoxx: well u can send a tradeoffer with my knife in it
Cloud: What do you mean?
ItsMadoxx: you accept and after you sent the code i accept on my mobilephone
ItsMadoxx: you can go on my profil and click on trade
Cloud: Like that it's the same as me going first
ItsMadoxx: yea its complicated
ItsMadoxx: one of us has to go first
Cloud: I mean you sent me the offer, and when I see the offer pop up I send you the code without accepting the offer at first
ItsMadoxx: what about a middleman?
Cloud: Most people that offer middlemen are just scammers dude
ItsMadoxx: thats like im going first u know^^ when it pops up ive to agree on my mobilephone
Cloud: I found that out by my years of trading
ItsMadoxx: yes i know
Cloud: But you have the code first without me having your knife
Cloud: After I sent the code I would just accept the offer
ItsMadoxx: the code could be fake u know
Cloud: Let me think
Cloud: Ok what about you check it first..?
Cloud: I'm risking it..
Cloud: I won't accept the offer unless you tell me the code works
Cloud: Just please if we do it like that, don't scam me.. I don't want to get scammed after all this time
ItsMadoxx: its the same way if i send a tradeoffer you can accept at anytime you want
Cloud: If I take more than 10sec sending you the code cancel it
Cloud: I'm willing to risk it bro
ItsMadoxx: then its too late
Cloud: I'll send you the code right after you tell me you sent the offer
ItsMadoxx: i can send the offer but i dont agree on my phone until u send the code
Cloud: It's the same as me going first tho..
ItsMadoxx: yes as i said one of us has to go first
ItsMadoxx: thats the struggle
Cloud: I don't know
ItsMadoxx: yea me too
Cloud: Did you see my reputation?
ItsMadoxx: yes is saw them
Cloud: Don't you think if I didn't scam all those people which some of them sold me much more expensive knives, I wouldn't scam you?
ItsMadoxx: honestly not
ItsMadoxx: no*
Cloud: Just think about it, a while back I sold everything because I got a job and I didn't have time for virtual items. Now I want to get some items and try to trade up
ItsMadoxx: yes i get it
Cloud: Let's just do it man, I have my credit card ready and everything
Cloud: At least you can see that I'm trustable by a lot of people
ItsMadoxx: let me think about it
Cloud: Alright man
ItsMadoxx: well
ItsMadoxx: i dont want to go first.. sry i like this knife and i dont want to lose it
Cloud: You're gaining money from not you'r not losing it..
Cloud: We talked for so much I just don't want to leave the deal like that
ItsMadoxx: yes me too...
Cloud: I thought after all that you can see that I'm not some kind of a scammer and I just want to buy your knife
Cloud hat den Status gewechselt zu: Online.
ItsMadoxx: did i buy the code?
Cloud: Not yet, you want me to buy it?
ItsMadoxx: yes
Cloud: So you'll do the trade?
Cloud: I don't want that the money would be wasted or anything..
ItsMadoxx: yes
ItsMadoxx: i know
Cloud: Ok I'll buy it
ItsMadoxx: alright
Cloud: I'll take a few min
ItsMadoxx: its ok no stress
ItsMadoxx: is it dollar or euros?
Cloud: 50€ right?
ItsMadoxx: yes
Cloud: Ok
ItsMadoxx: can you make a screen?
Cloud: When I receive it?
ItsMadoxx: when you get the code
ItsMadoxx: the process on the website
ItsMadoxx: that i can see you re rlly buying it
Cloud: I think they'll send the code to my email when I bought it
Cloud: I can take a pic of when I received it
ItsMadoxx: ok
Cloud: Ok I think I bought it
ItsMadoxx: ok
Cloud: Ok I got it
ItsMadoxx: ok did u open it?
Cloud: So what do you want me to send you now?
ItsMadoxx: a screen with the e-mail
ItsMadoxx: how many numbers is the pin code?
Cloud: 4x4
ItsMadoxx: ok
Cloud: It's just a pin
ItsMadoxx: yea
Cloud: Everything else is my information
Cloud: On what credit card I bought
ItsMadoxx: i dont care on what credit card you bought it
Cloud: I don't know what I can screenshot you now
ItsMadoxx: did u buy it here?
ItsMadoxx: https://www.wkv.com/?language=de
Cloud: Yeah
ItsMadoxx: ok lets do it
ItsMadoxx: can you send me half of the code at first=
ItsMadoxx: then i send you my knife
Cloud: Well ok, I hope my money doesn't go to waste
Cloud: 1658 4169
Cloud: first half of the pin
ItsMadoxx: ok i will send you
Cloud: So how do you want to do it?
ItsMadoxx: i hope i dont get scammed
Cloud: I don't want to get scammed too bro
ItsMadoxx: i send the offer and before you accept you send the other half
Cloud: So I send the pin after the offer pops up right?
ItsMadoxx: yes
Cloud: Ok
ItsMadoxx: type it in chat so you only have to press enter
Cloud: Ok
ItsMadoxx: done?
Cloud: Yes I got it copied
ItsMadoxx: ok
ItsMadoxx: omg sry that was stupid
ItsMadoxx: i accept now on my phone
ItsMadoxx: code
Cloud hat den Status gewechselt zu: Offline.​

Hello Horse,

thanks for your quick reply and for the information about the chat dialog. I ve uploadet the trade history, I hope its ok now.
Unfortunaltey I dont have a paysafecard account. I had this site opened because i copied the URL, btw. you can the the URL in the chat dialog.

Kind Regards,
ItsMadoxx

Alright, thank you.