Declined Report: 76561198197327578 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198197327578

Victim profile: 76561198143179327

What happened? Description:

He reached me out to buy me knife. he showed me on twitch & then discord his paypal account, which after refresh had 10k on it. He showed me several proofs. While speaking to me (we discussed during 2 days) he also bought some other knifes. I reached out the other traders, and the received the money (i know they are legit traders) so I am the only one that got scammed. He showed me his past trades on steam and had traded many knifes (and many expensive ones). When i sent my knife we were on discord, he received the knife and said "Ok bro, I scammed you". I asked to be paid on G2aPay (not refundable) and didn't get the money.​

Provide Evidence:

Here is all the chat (ignore what i said at the end after I got scammed, I said this because I was mad)
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I can't add more files but you can check the video proving that his account scammed me here : ​

Wednesday, June 20, 2018
CRIPSO
:
Hi
Trade
:
Um hey
How are you ?
CRIPSO
:
Fine thanks
I guess you added me to trade ?
Trade
:
U are smart
hah
CRIPSO
:
x)
So tell me
Trade
:
Float
And if it has any pattern ?
CRIPSO
:
Wait, first of all I would like to know which of my items you wanna trade
Trade
:
Flipinio my frienederrino :d
CRIPSO
:
ok
Trade
:
I am just offering real money xD
CRIPSO
:
So whats your offer
Trade
:
First i had to ask
If u are selling it
xD
CRIPSO
:
Well, people getting scammed for real money trades are so frequent that i'm not really into it ;x
Trade
:
If u knew that u will really get ur money would u do this ?
I will offer fair price ofc
CRIPSO
:
What would be your price ? and how would you send me the money ?
Trade
:
First i will check floats and patterns and will tell you offer
And payment definitely wil lbe paypal or bank transfer
Can do skrill or bitcoins but i will have money on them tomorrow
CRIPSO
:
Well, you can metjm my knife rn
Trade
:
Yea doing rn
xD
CRIPSO
:
its a tricolor
4 colors bs
Trade
:
float 0,02
normal for fn knife
CRIPSO
:
its not a piss ice
Trade
:
Blue tim
Tip
CRIPSO
:
Yup
Trade
:
okay
According on steam analyst price (194$) cause tricolour and blue tip can overpay 15-20$
So itonttaly offer will be around 215$
CRIPSO
:
That would be good for me, but how can I be sure you are not a scammer ? >.<
Trade
:
Hm
Do you have discord ?
CRIPSO
:
Why would i go discord ?_?
Trade
:
I would make screenshare and show u stuff
NP if u dont want
I will stream on twtich and watch there xD
CRIPSO
:
ok
Trade
:
https://www.twitch.tv/coolingourself
Come
Tell me once u will be there
CRIPSO
:
I'm on it
Trade
:
Okay
First of all i will show you my paypal balnace that i really have money
Now i will show you my recent money trades
Which i've done like this before
with money in general
With sellers liek u
Watching ?
CRIPSO
:
yup
but what do you do of all these knifes ?
Trade
:
I am reseller
I am buying skins
Then trading
And selling
Getting nice profit with it
CRIPSO
:
And so can I get the proof of the paypal payments ?
Trade
:
Atleast its good since i am doing nothing just staying at home and extra money why not
OFC
Also bank transfers too
CRIPSO
:
Paypal will be enough
Trade
:
Wait i will show u this trades and then payments
CRIPSO
:
But
Do you go first
?
Trade
:
Don't u trust me after all this proofs ?
I mean my paypal balnace
almost 10 K euro
Almost 50K $ money trades
like this before
I will show u activities too wait
CRIPSO
:
But you know, unless i'm 100% sure i can't get scammed i won't do it
Trade
:
Have u got facebook ?>
CRIPSO
:
y
Trade
:
How can i add u ?
CRIPSO
:
I don't wanna get added
Trade
:
okay
I mean
CRIPSO
:
:x
Trade
:
i am admin and middleamn on trading group
on facebook
where is 12K people
CRIPSO
:
facebook =/= csgo
Trade
:
And i can post there about reputation too
Watch stream
Watching ?
CRIPSO
:
y
Trade
:
wanna link of group ?
CRIPSO
:
y
Trade
:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1793904994178929/
tell me once u will send join request
CRIPSO
:
all these ppl are your friends
So i don't take that as a proff
proof
Trade
:
12K people ?
CRIPSO
:
No the ppl commenting
Trade
:
They are just adding me cause i am middleman of group which everyone using in my country so why not xD
CRIPSO
:
First of all I have to know
Will you go first yes or no ?
Trade
:
IF u are experieced money trader like me i will definitely go first
So have u done trades like this before ? like buyer like me
CRIPSO
:
No because 95% are scammers
Trade
:
YEa i see
And as u saw
I have done lot
I can show u more if u want
I just stoped showing
xD
CRIPSO
:
Because if I get the money first then I know i wont be scammed
Trade
:
TBH scammers are poor thats why they are scammign and why would i scam you for 215$ and ruin my huge reputation also i have almost 10K euro so its just out of logic that i scam isn't it ?
Can i know ur paypal email or paypal.me
I will ready payment
CRIPSO
:
I need to ask a friend about this, w8 a few minutes please
Trade
:
okay..
If u want come on discord with ur friends
Would be easyer to discuss isn't it ?
*easier
Tell me discord name and i will add u
CRIPSO
:
in fact
What really is the problem rn
is paypal chargebacks
Trade
:
sending as friends and family
besides this u can give me ur paypal.me link
Or request money from me
Which is not refundable
U can google it
and see paypal forums
CRIPSO
:
Thats what I'm doing
Trade
:
GO on ^_ ^
On paypal.me payment is sending as friends and family
https://www.paypal.me/
You can check this too
Trade
:
SO ?
Here?
CRIPSO
:
May I just know why you wanna buy it from me and not a csgo skin market ?
Trade
:
I was using opsklns but i think u know what happened to them
CRIPSO
:
yes
ofc :x
Trade
:
Idiot valve
They want all the money
CRIPSO
:
yup
Trade
:
I would use skins baron
but its german site
and need id and stuff xD
*needs
CRIPSO
:
The biggest issue is that I've read that even family/friend transactions can be charged back
Trade
:
And u think that ttrades which i've made is charged back ?
CRIPSO
:
i don't know
Trade
:
Also i can attach note that i recevived what i payed for
And i will no longer ask for refund
CRIPSO
:
just imagine you scamming me
Trade
:
Yea i understand ur point
CRIPSO
:
leaving me with -215$ papypal
Trade
:
U are just carefoul
CRIPSO
:
ye
Trade
:
I like it
U have to be like that
Because community is f✿✿✿ed
Almost all poor scamming nowadays on steam
CRIPSO
:
that not the community
That's the world in general
Trade
:
YEa
U are right i have same opinion
CRIPSO
:
ppl tend to steal everything
Trade
:
YEa
IK
I've been scammed once
For huntsman slaughter st
it was 2 year ago
And i know how it feels
I just wanted suiicide
and i dont know
How the f✿✿✿ does scammers sleep
CRIPSO
:
A friend got scammed (for a ✿✿✿✿✿✿ed thing)
Trade
:
When they know someone is depressing on harming himself
CRIPSO
:
but still got scammed
And that really sucks
Trade
:
Yea i know getting scammed feel
Have u ever been scammed ?
CRIPSO
:
nop
cuz i'm carefull
Trade
:
Wish u never get
Its worst feeling
When u put trust on someone
CRIPSO
:
But u know, a scammer could also speak like u do
Also I feel like you are legit
Trade
:
I am not saying anything : d
CRIPSO
:
I have to be carefull
Trade
:
IK
Maybe i am telling u
cause dont think i am scammer
NOt forcing u neither
CRIPSO
:
I'm still looking
Sorry if i take so much time
But as you told me
you know the feeling so ....
Trade
:
Yea i know getting scammed feel xD
So you won't trust me right ?
CRIPSO
:
wait
please
Trade
:
Okay i just have another costumer
I will talk to him
CRIPSO
:
yeah of course, no problem
Trade
:
LEl so fast
I am back
CRIPSO
:
Done already ?
Trade
:
Yea i was already talking to him
When i turned off stream
CRIPSO
:
i'm looking on G2apay if its possible to do it safely
Trade
:
I had people like u
And someof them
Choosing donationalert
ITs for streamers and from there its not refundable too
CRIPSO
:
what is it ?
Trade
:
When people are getting donation
Like that
And its not refundable as welll
CRIPSO
:
but the site is .ru
Trade
:
Ru ?
U can choose currencyt
Its authorised by twitch
Wait maybe i remember wrong site
]Give me sec
streamlabs.com
Check this
Yea its that
just link paypal or even credit card there
Or if u have teamviewer
I would come ur pc and would full balance
anywhere
CRIPSO
:
lemme check quiclu
Trade
:
U want
OKay
CRIPSO
:
i'mma do it fast
Trade
:
ok
CRIPSO
:
Typically
https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/115006017667-I-just-received-a-chargeback-What-now-
Trade
:
Oh nvm then
CRIPSO
:
This shows that you can chargeback on streamlabs
Trade
:
I just had people who wanted like this idk
okay u think something that we can do
I think i had nice idea xD
CRIPSO
:
tell me :x
^^'
Trade
:
I will come on ur pc with teamviewer
And choose something
webiste
or something
Where i will fill ur balance
with paypal or credit card
And we will do like that if uwant ..
CRIPSO
:
So basically you enter your payment stuf ?
Trade
:
we useincognito
To dont save my info
*incognito
If u want ofc
CRIPSO
:
i have to think about it because
Trade
:
Or even fill ur steam balance if uwant..
CRIPSO
:
if you chargeback (I know one again >.<) I will have problems
because its on my acc
The pb is that on steam i will loose money :x
Trade
:
oh
i can also refund from steam ?
If that was working like that
that would be biggest probelm for g2a and stuff
Because
I would deposti money on g2a
I will buy stuff
Then i would refund
That doesn't working like that man
CRIPSO
:
On g2a
There is an option
Trade
:
G2a for example
CRIPSO
:
to request money
Trade
:
Wait
I dont think
then
ppeople would buy stuff skins and codes on g2a
Would use or sell
And then refund money
You look so easy to this paypal things
CRIPSO
:
I don't understand what you just said >.<
Trade
:
U are saying that i can refund every payment and its not like this . for example what u are saying i will tell you with example : i bought steam wallet codes on g2a like 1000$ intottaly , i used them then i sell skins and then i will go on paypal and i will refund that money whihc i payed for wallet codes ?
This was example
Its not like that its not that easy , even if i will contact support about refund they are asking proofs from both buyers and seller they will conatct u too and ask for proof that u really didn't sent me offer
u can also rrecord this conversation as proof
I am saying that if i will send u payment as paypal.me or friends and family and i will ask for refund, support will ask u for proofs and u can easily show that u really sent me item
Besides this i am always attaching note to payment that i got what i payed for
Its not that easy to get money back man xD u need to be right when u are refunding
CRIPSO
:
But i've read on reddit that often for virtual items proofs are not really taken into account
Trade
:
Then refund on virtual items works ?
CRIPSO
:
idk
I've never traded for real money
I just wanna play with nice skins
Trade
:
Trust me bro ( idk if u trust me ) i am on this since 2016 and dont teach me please
CRIPSO
:
without getting scammed
Trade
:
I know how it works
IDk if u believe me but i know what i am saying
I just swear god and my family i had lot of situation like that when i was able to refund but i have never done idk if u believe and idc too but i know i am that guy who always making his word xD
besides this since i am sending as friends and family or paypal.me i have really low chance to get money back and if still i had 1000% chance i wouldn't do that
I know u will think that maybe i am saying this cause to gain ur trust and scam you but idc i am just saying true
Trade
:
just buying another knife before u are thinking
CRIPSO
:
Is it ok for you if we speak about this tommorow ?
I have to think about it
Trade
:
about ?
CRIPSO
:
Well, i'd like to play a bit and i'll think about it tommorow morning or someting like that
Trade
:
okay as u wish
As i told u in the begging i am not forcing u
CRIPSO
:
ok i will come back to you
hopefully we can trade
Have a good evening
Trade
:
U 2
hope so
oh he wanted so much for shitty knife
Thursday, June 21, 2018
CRIPSO
:
Hi
I think I have figured out a good way
Trade
:
Yea
CRIPSO
:
I could list it on Bitskins
And send you my post
Trade
:
I have not verification on bitskins xD
I was using opskisn for life
CRIPSO
:
So u can't use paypal on bitskins?
Trade
:
NOp
CRIPSO
:
oh ^^'
Trade
:
can u wait
I am on mm
CRIPSO
:
sure
hf
Trade
:
Can we go discord too
once i will finish
CRIPSO
:
ok
Trade
:
Are u here?
I am back
Trade
:
Here?/
CRIPSO
:
Yes i am
Trade
:
Wanna come on discord ?
CRIPSO
:
I've found the good way
You can send me the money on G2apay
Trade
:
Really ?
How
CRIPSO
:
I've contacted the support
and see :
Trade
:
Marblez#9181
add me on discord
CRIPSO
:
This form of payment is only one way payment and it is not possible to charge it back nor refund it. When making such transaction it requires to provide correct data and information. So in this case you should not be left with negative balance as such payment is not refundable.
Trade
:
Great
CRIPSO
:
So all you have to do is send me the money on g2a
and we'll be done
Trade
:
Okay
I am happy
That ufound ^_^
CRIPSO
:
yes
so do i
Trade
:
I just learned another payment method i gues s :d
CRIPSO
:
{LIEN SUPPRIMÉ}
Trade
:
CRIPSO: {LINK REMOVED}
CRIPSO
:
htt ps://pay.g2a.com/panel/index
Trade
:
Come discord bro
CRIPSO
:
Well, i can but I don't really see the need
Trade
:
IDK its just easier xD
To talk discuss and stuff xD
Also u have to teach me how to do this
So i will screenshare and teach me xD
CRIPSO
:
ok but I invite you
Trade
:
OK
Np
CRIPSO
:
I don't know if you know it but there are discord scams
Trade
:
Yea link :d
CRIPSO
:
so you should be carefull friend
yup
Trade
:
Links*
ya okay np
https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=237061850&token=ZC8QZHf3
Trade
:
Hasoon
Trade
:
U asked why i dont had good knife right ?
Wait 2-3 minute :d
CRIPSO
:
ok
Trade
:
Check now
CRIPSO
:
Who did you buy it from ?
a random guy like me ?
Trade
:
He just added me
I have posted on multiple groups and forums
CRIPSO
:
can i have his profile ? :x
Trade
:
YEa why ?
CRIPSO
:
Because i wanted to discuss with him ^^'
But anyway
Trade
:
He sold
Shadow daggers yesterday too
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Abasha12345
He just have huge inventyory and once they are getting tradable he is selling to me xD
U can add and ask
CRIPSO
:
thats what i'm doing
yu
ty*
Trade
:
Did him added u ?
CRIPSO
:
nop
Trade
:
Or should i tell him to add u
okay i will tell him to add u
What is happening
CRIPSO
:
?
Trade
:
Did him added u ?
CRIPSO
:
nop
Trade
:
I will tell again
he addeed u i see
CRIPSO
:
Yup, i'm talking to him
Trade
:
okay..
CRIPSO
:
Can we go on discord?
Trade
:
why?
okay
Call me
CRIPSO
:
yes 2 secs
Trade
:
https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=237061850&token=ZC8QZHf3[/spoiler]

Btw when he showed his screen on twitch, he was using this channel : https://www.twitch.tv/coolingourself
Also he asked this group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/1793904994178929/ if he was safe or not (20ppl at least replied yes) Its a trading group with over 12k ppl

Believe it or not, this guy scammed me as you can see with my proofs above. But you have to know that Abasha is not one of his accounts. Abasha is a trusted trader that has nothing to do with a scrub like Marblezz.