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Under Investigation Report: 76561198212753271 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Pre-2017 Reports' started by pinkquad, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. pinkquad

    pinkquad New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198212753271

    Victim profile: 76561198189534714

    What happened? Description:
    The accused was advertising on a TF2 Unusual Trade Server buying unusuals via paypal. I added him to trade and he had adequate rep, after some discussion, we decided to trade my Scorching Ballcap + Vivid Plasma Bonk Boy for 225 keys or 415 USD.

    I traded him my two items and he said that he would send me the money promptly, however, after a while he hadn't sent me the money. I asked him about this and he said that his bank was acting up and that he was on the phone. I knew this was suspicious as he was in game.

    After an hour or two, he still was brushing me off. I finally asked if I could have my items back until he sorted his bank issues. He said okay, but stopped replying after I sent a trade. He said he was driving to work and was using "siri" to message me and couldn't trade. This was an obvious lie because there was no mobile symbol next to his name. However I went along with all this and waited patiently.

    I began to play some TF2 and after I was done I found that he had removed and blocked me. He changed his profile picture, his name ("Flan" from "Jeff") and his URL to "MyNamaGay".
    edit: he changed his name back to Flan and made everything public again.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Unfortunately, because he has unadded me and blocked me, I cannot get the chat.
    If steamrep/backpack.tf/outpost could get him to add me and show the chat history, it would prove him innocent or guilty. I have trade history showing that he had taken my items with nothing in return.

    I have some of the chat that I had copied to a friend during my discussion with Flan:

    yellow johnny: vivid bonk boy + scorching ballcap for 416.25
    yellow johnny: USD Flan: how bout just straight 415
    yellow johnny: yeah sure
    You cannot request a new trade while you are still in another trade session.
    Flan: deak
    Flan: deal*
    yellow johnny: went through
    Flan: got it yellow johnny: send through 415 :)
    yellow johnny: thanks dude
    Flan: np :D Flan: ill tell ya when money is sent
    yellow johnny: you sending it now?
    Flan: having trouble sending the money give me a few
    Flan: gonna call my bank real quick Flan: if something is wrong ill refund the hats
    yellow johnny: okay sure thing
    Flan: ass hats put me on hold
    yellow johnny: HAHAHAHA
    Flan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    yellow johnny: any luck?
    Flan: still on hold :) just relax worst comes to worst i send them bac
    yellow johnny: okay
    yellow johnny: first pp trade so just a bit on edge :p
    Flan: Chase bank is literally the worst bank on planet earth
    Flan: i completely get ti yellow johnny: :p
    Flan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    yellow johnny: its been a while, whats happened?

    yellow johnny: yellow johnny: its been a while, whats happened?
    yellow johnny: talked to your bank?
    Flan: on the phone with them rn
    Flan: literally talked to like 5 diff people
    Flan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    yellow johnny: im dying here
    yellow johnny: hahaha
    Merendas ( FT ): okie , lets hope for you , that he isnt a scammer
    yellow johnny: pray
    yellow johnny: yellow johnny: im dying here
    yellow johnny: hahaha
    Flan: :)
    Flan: just relax my dude
    Flan: i used to be in your shoes
    yellow johnny: :p im glad ur a nice guy
    Flan: no im the ass hole making people wait
    yellow johnny: i dont really trust people
    Flan: now*
    yellow johnny: so
    Flan: that means alot thanks :)
    yellow johnny: you were nice
    yellow johnny: and taught me s✿✿✿
    yellow johnny: you seem trustworthy, dont dog me :p
    Flan: i got my reputation to uphold lol
    yellow johnny: Flan: i got my reputation to uphold lol
    Flan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    yellow johnny: youre not wrong :p
    yellow johnny: what has your bank said?
    Flan: so far what ive gotten from them is "your spending alot of money"
    Flan: "we need to make sure its you"
    yellow johnny: lol really?
    yellow johnny: yellow johnny: lol really?
    Flan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Flan: yup they keep transfering me
    Flan: i have a headache
    yellow johnny: :(
    yellow johnny: can you give back the items until you get it sorted?
    yellow johnny: and then ill do the trade again after
    Flan: just give me a lil bit more and then well do that
    yellow johnny: sure thing
    Flan: kk

    thats some of the chat.

    I'm really annoyed that I closed the chat window before I could do anything, however, if he would add me back I could get proof of the scam.​

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  2. YungFiend

    YungFiend Unconfirmed Reports

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    Hey, Flan here, would just like to point out the complete lack of evidence that this pyscho brought to the table. Would also like to point out the fact that he spam added my entire friends list as well. Him having second thoughts on a deal is not my problem.

    http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198212753271 - My rep from cash trades.

    (Currently Disputing His -Rep)

    Also i would like to point out the complete lack of evidence is astounding.
  3. pinkquad

    pinkquad New User

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    Also, I have never used paypal before for this reason. My parents have one and I usually ask them to buy stuff for me on Ebay and such.
    I had made a PayPal account for this transaction and here are the screenshots of the empty account/no payment received.

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    pinkquad New User

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    If my accusations are baseless, please provide proof that states otherwise. The only thing baseless about this was your defence saying "look at my previous rep".
  5. YungFiend

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    pinkquad New User

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    Whose "John" when my name is "Justin" ???
    My name, Justin, has been shown in my previous screenshot and said by you.
    and I have already provided proof that you haven't sent any money. You've just sent a measly, cropped photo which could have easily been fabricated. Send the whole screenshot.

    If you really want to prove your innocence, unblock and add me back. If you haven't done anything wrong, i should be able to go back through the chat history because you have nothing to hide.
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    proof of email

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  8. YungFiend

    YungFiend Unconfirmed Reports

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    This is childish. I have posted enough evidence to defend myself waiting for a staff members input.
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    ЩĄ | Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin Partner Community

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    Looking into it but screenshots need to be uncropped and full screen to review here.
    Hidden Content:
    **Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by members of (usergroups: Administrative, Moderating).**
  10. pinkquad

    pinkquad New User

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    No it isnt childish, steamrep rules state that images must be uncropped and in full. If youre innocent and you have nothing to hide, why have you blocked and unadded me? Add me on steam and we can sort this out, this will all go away if you just be honest and retun my items
  11. YungFiend

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    Ok first things first. The items are now mine and only mine. I paid 415.00 USD to your paypal email that you provided. You show no real screenshot evidence of this alledged "scam" and are wasting peoples times.

    Also my dispute against his -rep on bp.tf was succesful.
    http://backpack.tf/trust/76561198212753271

    Which really does say a lot about this case.
  12. ЩĄ | Horse

    ЩĄ | Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin Partner Community

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    @YungFiend Provide a full screenshot of your paypal activity and one of the transaction open if you want to settle it quickly.
  13. pinkquad

    pinkquad New User

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    I have provided screenshots of no transactions going through paypal and my trade history.

    Explain these questions if you're innocent.
    1) Why have you blocked and unadded me without telling me if you payed the money?
    2) If you're innocent, why won't you add me back?
    3) Why haven't you posted a photo of your Paypal activity page uncropped?
    4) Why is my name "John" on that Paypal screenshot?
  14. YungFiend

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    I am having trouble looking up past purchases due to the fact my bank informed me there was fraud (which i told to pink the day of the purchase), once again this is he said she said there is no solid evidence i scammed him, yet i have a screenshot of the money being sent to the provided email. Also i had just spoken to a few people on Vactican who had told me he bought these items by sellings things he was supposed to be brokering. I have linked them to this thread so hopefully they put in there input. If i scammed him the items would be long gone. Instead i am sitting here arguing to a brick wall.
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    pinkquad New User

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    His previous "proof" that he sent me money via paypal directly contradicts the evidence I have provided.
    http://forums.steamrep.com/attachments/email-jpg.491317/
    This screenshot shows my email and name, which cannot be changed.

    The accused said himself:
    "Thanks for digging your own grave.
    Here is proof of me sending money to his provided email:
    [email protected]"
    However, the photo says John, which is not my name and cannot be changed.
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  16. YungFiend

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    https://gyazo.com/1b0e9c6ab8ed7aeca17c0411fcec2eef - screenie of constant name changes :)
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    pinkquad New User

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    Again, your "solid evidence" doesn't even show my email or my name. Please provide an uncropped screenshot.
    Also, your bank has nothing to do with Paypal activity, it should be there if you transferred money.
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  20. YungFiend

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    hmmm maybe you should :)