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  1. Grimm

    Grimm New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198356686638

    Victim profile: 76561198050210789

    What happened? Description:
    Individual requested to buy 400 Keys in TF2 from me for BTC funds. They added me I'm assuming from my forum on backpack.tf where I advertised I was buying keys https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/77621-wtb-keys-187-eur-156-paypal/?tab=comments#comment-650986

    Initially I explained how I wasn't interested in selling keys for BTC, but I got curious and pursued them. They explained to me how to use bitcoin, as I was unfamiliar with the terminology or workings of btc. Their intention was either originally to scam me using BTC, or only when the discovered I was unfamiliar with BTC

    You may be familiar with tBTC, or Testnet Bitcoin. Testnet bitcoin is bitcoin used for testing purposes, and holds no value. The accused told me to set up a Bitcoin account using BitPay, and to make sure I had Testnet enabled. I did some research myself and discovered that tBTC had no value, but I decided to play along to try and see what their true intentions were.

    The accused did indeed send me the agreed upon amount, however they sent it as tBTC, rendering it virtually worthless and therefore attempting to scam for 400 keys.

    Please note I also attached screenshots of the account they wanted me to send the keys to. Thank you!

    Also note in the attached image of the BitPay window, the BTC T? wallet is in Testnet mode, defined by the tag :)

    I could not upload all images, so please look at the rest of the images on Imgur here : https://imgur.com/a/mcLLmgk

    Provide Evidence:
    Below I have attached files of evidence. Again, here is the imgur link with the rest of the images as I could only upload 15. https://imgur.com/a/mcLLmgk

    [Yesterday, 17:09]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    hiya c:

    [Yesterday, 17:10]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Hey
    im interested in buying tf2 keys
    btc

    [Yesterday, 17:10]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Nty

    [Yesterday, 17:11]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    aight then

    [Yesterday, 17:11]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Wait
    what per key?
    in terms of eur
    && how many keys

    [Yesterday, 17:16]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    need 400 exactly
    1.50 eur each
    also btc fees will be on my end so u dont have to worry ab that

    [Yesterday, 17:24]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Nty
    I can sell paypal for 1.66 eur

    [Yesterday, 17:26]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    I don't use paypal anymore
    and I reccomend you don't either
    it's terrible
    they locked my acc when I had 60$ balance
    randomely

    [Yesterday, 18:23]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    yeh
    i got 3000 in there atm locked ha

    [Yesterday, 19:38]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    what rate would be good for u if I pay in btc?
    paypal is off the table sry

    [Yesterday, 20:18]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    like 1,80 a key cuz i dont know jack ab crypto and its gonna be a pain to transfer it
    or 1.70
    i could do 1.70

    Wednesday, May 5, 2021

    [17:17]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    I can show u how to work w crypto
    get Bitpay or Blockstream green
    u can get them on windows, android and ios too I think
    u can create a 1 time use btc wallet and then convert it into paypal
    if we go with btc I could do 1.75
    but not 1.80

    [17:25]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Are there fees? my side?

    [17:27]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    fees from transfering would be on my side since Im the one sending
    but fees for converting it to paypal can vary
    usually it would be 1%-2%

    [17:29]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    I have BitPay

    [17:29]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    did u make it rn?

    [17:29]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Yeah

    [17:29]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    wait
    when creating one did you choose Single address and Testnet?
    it's important

    [17:30]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    didnt give me that option

    [17:30]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    create a wallet and click advanced options
    enable those 2

    [17:31]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    i have simple wallet, shared wallet, import wallet
    btc or bch?

    [17:32]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    btc

    [17:32]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    testnet and single address

    [17:32]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    yea
    nothing else
    don't mess w settings other than that

    [17:32]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....034/85931BF745495D18382E2F9A16A9B40358F1A88A/

    nah

    [17:33]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    yea, that allows you to recieve tBTC aswell as btc separetly

    [17:34]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....775/C10BF20B2942EADD1BDAE6B101F1838AF15378D8/

    [17:34]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    u can tell real btc because there will be a transaction URL and it will show up on the blockchain(I will give it to you after I pay)

    [17:34]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    why would i want s✿✿✿ with no value

    [17:34]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    you don't, tBTC and normal BTC are different
    if you recieve tBTC it will say so

    [17:34]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    I'll do some research and talk to some other traders

    [17:35]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    ok sure

    [17:36]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    I don't see a reason to enable it
    yeh
    basically just fake btc
    ill keep it disabled ty

    [17:36]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    my wallet is single address and testnet enabled

    [17:36]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    ok cool

    [17:37]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    if you recieved tBTC it will show up as such
    normal BTC is BTC

    [17:37]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    hmm
    Prove it

    [17:37]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    sure

    [17:37]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Send me 0.01

    [17:37]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    I'll send you a pic what tBTC looks like

    [17:37]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    tb1qruy0s4zpvj3ssvj6y9qycnggd6kkdk288hx2vx
    send 0.01 to that

    [17:39]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    u want me to send 100$+
    lol

    [17:39]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Just 0.01 is fine
    cent
    like
    0.01 cent worth of bitcoin

    [17:40]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    I can't, fees are bigger than 1 cent and are subtracted from the sending amount
    if u don't want to deal on my terms then don't

    [17:46]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    What address will you be using to send coins from?

    [17:47]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Bitpay

    [17:47]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    No, the address
    Hmm okay
    Well, send me a trade offer for the keys, and send the btc. as soon as I confirm I have it, i can accept the trade.
    tb1qruy0s4zpvj3ssvj6y9qycnggd6kkdk288hx2vx this is the address, set up with testnet and single address

    [17:55]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Ok
    just to make sure
    we agreed on 1.75
    for 400 keys
    correct?
    not 1.8

    [17:56]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    1.75 a key for 400

    [17:56]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Ok
    so 700$ usd

    [17:57]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Yep

    [17:57]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    aight

    [17:58]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    I can do the trade offer when I get funds
    got a key bot

    [18:03]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Sending it?

    [18:03]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    yea
    wait
    Im trying to send you the trade but my steam inv extension is being autistic and not letting me add the 400

    [18:04]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Nah
    I'll do that dw
    I can send the trade in 15 seconds after i receive the coin

    [18:10]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    aight
    tell me when u recieve the btc
    sent

    [18:10]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    You sent it?

    [18:10]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    also dont send the trade to this acc
    don't send trade yet

    [18:11]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Havent recieved anything so

    [18:11]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    it's not instant
    to show up it needs 1 or more confirmation
    let's wait

    [18:13]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    What acc am i sending trade to?

    [18:15]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    wait I'll give you the link to my storage acc
    https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new?partner=1056833636&token=fwetpYFJ
    do 200 keys first
    and 200 in next trade

    [18:16]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Not til I recieve it
    receive

    [18:16]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    yea we'll wait first for that
    Im just telling u for when u recieve it
    do 200 keys in 1 trade and 200 in the next

    [18:17]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    kay

    [18:18]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    I chose the lowest fee so it may take some time

    [18:18]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    thats np
    i have all day

    [18:18]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    cool

    [18:27]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Im still here btw
    haven't abandoned u

    [18:27]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    I know, i am too

    [18:27]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    after the first confirmation you will send 200 keys to the link I gave you aight?
    and then 200 in the next trade

    [18:28]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Y ep

    [18:36]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    have you got it yet?
    it has 2 confirmations

    [18:36]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Still 0
    let me close and reopen

    [18:37]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....234/58945BA6123F82F781F558EB2210106704E1BB02/

    [18:37]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Ah, yeah got it

    [18:37]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    AIght then
    Im gonna go on my other acc to accept the trade

    [18:38]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    So, now I send 400 keys, 200 keys per trade?

    [18:38]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    2 trades
    first one 200 keys
    and second once 200 keys
    yea

    [18:39]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....585/F5AEC982CF4853F5BA123D127A09E93F15FEAEA1/

    [18:40]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Wait

    [18:40]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    i got it dw

    [18:40]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Try adding the acc as a friend

    [18:41]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    gimme a few

    [18:41]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Wait you did?
    Aight

    [18:41]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Yeah ill send the offer in a min

    [18:41]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Ok cool
    Have you sent it?
    Sending all 400 at once prob caused the error
    That's why I told you to send 200 keys in first trade
    And 200 keys in the second
    Bro

    [18:45]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    Yeah i know, sorry, my bots having problems. gonna have to do it one by one

    [18:46]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Do it without the bot
    Are you wasting time on purpose?
    Hey

    [18:51]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    sorry clicking 200 keys takes forever
    only have a laptop xd

    [18:51]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Nah it's ok
    You waited for my slow ass transaction w low fees, so I guess it's fair for me to wait for you
    What laptop u have btw?

    [18:53]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    just a shitty old dell

    [18:53]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Btw there are chrome extensions to choose alot of items at once when trading
    U can look for one of those if u want

    [18:53]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    yeah i have it but it isnt working

    [18:53]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Or don't
    You can also try sending multiple trades with 50 keys each
    Just so I know you aren't wasting time on purpose
    No offense tho, im not accusing u of anything
    Im just a bit tilted because 700$ are missing from my wallet now
    And I haven't got any trades yet

    [18:56]
    Ashh B> w/ 1000 Keys:
    im at about 150 atm xd

    [18:56]
    ⎝⧹Anon420⧸⎠:
    Ok
    Also unrelated but where is ur profile pic from?
    Vtuber?

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  2. Grimm

    Grimm New User

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  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Give me the hash you gave the user to send funds to - paste it here
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    Grimm New User

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    tb1qruy0s4zpvj3ssvj6y9qycnggd6kkdk288hx2vx This is the hash I sent them
  5. Horse

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    So you said you are unfamiliar with BTC? You just opened a wallet today for this user to trade you is that correct?
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    That is correct. I downloaded BitPay as they instructed me to, and opened a new wallet on BitPay using the instructions they told me I.E Single address and Testnet
    I was unaware why, but I did research into testnet. I then decided to edge them on to see if they were attempting a scam.
  7. Horse

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    ok and you made no trades with this user at all?

    I need the trade offer URL they sent you in that one chat log pasted here also pls

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    Is there any more information I need to provide?
  10. Horse

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    not till asked - its set to under invest vs need more info
  11. Grimm

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    This is proof from another trader
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    This user is interacting with the alt account of the accused, which I have linked above.(
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  12. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Do not make accusations of users having alts no more than what you already provided with evidence.
    If we determine that we will handle it on our own. You are also helping someone violate our policies by putting their info up they tried to add to this report and that is unacceptable and not allowed. We will handle ONE report for one instance as you provided.
    I'm removing the info above for the other users - please do not post again unless asked the report is under investigation.
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