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Accepted Report: 76561198051189993 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

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  1. Lusht

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198051189993

    Victim profile: 76561197999121454

    What happened? Description:
    On a September 05 2017 the accused contacted me via TF2Outpost under the username "kevin":
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29337916#latest | https://archive.li/NyiuJ

    He wanted to purchase 12 TF2 keys and promptly sent me invite that I have accepted:
    https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198051189993?t=1504635836

    After we agreed to the terms he sent me payment and we used Backpack.tf trust system to make the trade done:
    Mine: https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197999121454 | https://archive.li/KhPE1
    His: https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198051189993

    Today, as of December 05 2017, I've received a notification from Paypal about "unauthorized payment" claim from his account.

    See evidence for more details.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Attached evidence:
    - paypal dispute page screenshot
    - paypal dispute email notification
    - Steam chatlog screenshots in 2 parts
    - Steam chattlog in text form
    - Full trade history dating back to day of the trade in question
    - separate trade log screenshot with link visible to account
    - scammer's account overview screenshot with chat window overlayed
    - screenshot of the trade offer​

    Steam64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051189993
    Paypal: Jello Etteran karmakewn12[{at}]gmail.com

    Never tell your password to anyone.
    20:46 - kevin: hey
    20:46 - Lusht: hey
    20:46 - kevin: are you selling tf2 keys/
    20:48 - Lusht: YEAH
    20:48 - Lusht: I mean yes
    20:49 - kevin: id like to buy 12 keys
    20:49 - Lusht: Yeah, sure, 1.89$ each, you use paypal?
    20:50 - kevin: yes sir
    20:50 - Lusht: Country? Paypal verified i.e. capable of sending payment asa gift?
    20:50 - kevin: in canada
    20:50 - kevin: and im verified as far as i know
    20:51 - kevin: my bank account is linked with my PP
    20:51 - Lusht: Alright, send 22.68$ USD to zantezuken[{at}]gmail.com, gift or friends&family payment, no notes needed
    20:52 - kevin: it automatically converts to RUB
    20:52 - kevin: u fine with that?
    20:52 - kevin: or do u just prefer the usd
    20:52 - Lusht: No, select USD
    20:52 - Lusht: you can force select it
    20:53 - kevin: alright sent
    20:55 - Lusht: Jello Etteran, oh man
    20:55 - Lusht: What happened to you in 2015 btw, kevin
    20:55 - Lusht: you vanished
    20:55 - kevin: u know me?
    20:56 - Lusht: I just did some background checking. So why you suddenly back to f2 and trading
    20:56 - kevin: oh
    20:56 - kevin: i lost interest in tf2 a few years ago and cashed out
    20:57 - kevin: decided to check it out again since i got a new laptop
    20:58 - Lusht: ah I see
    20:58 - Lusht: anyway, offer sent
    20:58 - kevin: ive got a REALLY old sourceop rep thread
    20:58 - kevin: but i dont think anyone uses that anymore
    20:59 - kevin: you cashing out?
    20:59 - kevin: or cashed out i should say
    20:59 - kevin: anyway, could you leave a rating for me if you dont mind? https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198051189993
    20:59 - Lusht: Well, you could say so, just selling out TF@ leftovers
    21:00 - kevin: ah i see
    21:00 - Lusht: Yeah, sure, here is mine: https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197999121454
    21:00 - kevin: gotcha
    21:00 - Lusht: cheers
    21:00 - kevin: have a good one
    21:17 - kevin is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.

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    Lusht, Dec 5, 2017
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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    @Lusht Need to see paypal activity from Sept 4th till now FULL screenshots - need to see the full screenshot of the transaction and/or the charge back.
    Also
    Please provide a full screen shot of your Trade Inventory History showing for sure the trade in question(NOT TRADE OFFER!!)- open this with a web browser, move your mouse over the users name in question so it shows up the hypertext popup URL at the bottom of the screen - take the screen shot DO NOT edit it in anyway and upload.
    Horse, Dec 6, 2017
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  3. Lusht

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    Only If I can share it privately.

    It is provided?
    Lusht, Dec 7, 2017
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  4. Horse

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    Paypal activity doesn't show personal data such as your name or anything.

    And I wouldn't ask for something if you had already provided exactly what I requested.
    Horse, Dec 7, 2017
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  5. Lusht

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    I'm not going to post the full payment/income history on public no matter the reason.

    Well, the problem is that I believe I've provided exactly what you are asking about. Attached file is exactly what is in the post

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    Lusht, Dec 7, 2017
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  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You can post here here and request it hidden thats the best I can do - objective about these reports are to give others tools to research someone they may trade with - by seeing all the evidence and making up their own mind. Our tags here don't stop them from trading...just a warning.
    Ok I can work with the inventory shot - when I ask for these things - a new one updates dates and so on.
    Horse, Dec 7, 2017
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    @Lusht Please follow up
    Horse, Dec 8, 2017
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    @Lusht You have 24hours to follow up
    Horse, Dec 9, 2017
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  9. Lusht

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    I know how steamrep works.
    It is your decision to let the guy scam further with clear evidence.

    Again, I'm not posting my full paypal history 4 months log on ANY public place. Something like this will be shared only in private. Besides, since the payment is now in "BEING HELD" status it is not even displayed in History for September anymore, paypal pinned it on top. So this 4months history is useless unless you have some other reasons to ask for it unrelated to this case (which is one of possible reasons I'm not sharing this kind of info)


    If you want specific shot - I can do that, no problem.

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    Lusht, Dec 10, 2017
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  10. Horse

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    Ok I can work with this - however that screenshot is cropped and not full screen.
    Try that one just once more - and now since its being held- I need that held transaction opened from within paypal and a FULL screenshot of it...completely unedited/uncropped.

    Your crack about "decision to let the guy scam further with clear evidence" is just that.. nothing is clear here I'm asking for specific things and you keep dancing around with reasons why when I told you to post what I asked and I'd hide it for you...was and is rather simple to keep it out of public view.
    .... I need to see it it or I won't tag/ban anyone - the responsibility to effect someones trading status here is SUPER serious if you think it is or not.

    So for a compromise just that one you gave again but full screen AND that opened held transaction as requested.

    Feel free to look at my post history here - you see I have zero tolerance for scammers but if no evidence I will not proceed.
    Horse, Dec 10, 2017
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    It is full screen, I even used FULLSCREEN BROWSER mode for that. Cant get more fullscrener than that.

    This? See attached. Same Fullscreen mode.

    I'm not dancing around, I clearly stated 2 (now 3 times) - I wont be providing full paypal history.

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    Lusht, Dec 10, 2017
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  12. Horse

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    Full screenshot means if you are on Windows - task bar and all must be included..you aren't on a mac so it must be windows.
    See this guide for help.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
    I'll need TWO screenshots - that one you just gave but FULL screen and another of the transactions being held opened from within paypal..both full screen showing taskbar and everything. So if hidden - unhide it for the screenshots.

    Please read my instructions carefully.
    Horse, Dec 10, 2017
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  13. Lusht

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    Seems like the user is already banned.

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    Lusht, Dec 11, 2017
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  14. Horse

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    Yes I did that working a behind the scenes report from a friend community we have here.. I was reluctant to do it before finishing this one because I figured you would say that and not give me what I wanted but you came thru and I thank you for it.
    Horse, Dec 11, 2017
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  15. Horse

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    Your report was accepted and the accused was banned. Feel free to report a violation via their Steam profile.

    In order to do that, you have to:
    1. Visit the accuseds profile
    2. Click MORE drop-down located at the top right of the page
    3. Choose REPORT VIOLATION
    4. Select the violation, then describe it and provide the evidence
    5. Click SUBMIT REPORT

    Click here to view an animated gif that shows how to report a violation.
    Horse, Dec 11, 2017
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