Accepted Report: 76561198823915731 - ([DOTA2] Dota2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [DOTA2] Dota2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198823915731

Victim profile: 76561198002398448

What happened? Description:

User https://steamcommunity.com/id/ESfour/
Offered a trade for money for an item: Axia of Metira
We agreed to 115 euro via PayPal using a middleman.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/YukiOfficialls
was acting as middleman.

After the trade to middleman happened, both middleman and the user have left the group chat, no money transfer happened. Both removed me from friends list and ignored messages.​

Provide Evidence:

Trade agreement and middleman:
https://i.imgur.com/uW1uT8l.png
https://i.imgur.com/e28EGpB.png

group chat with middleman:
https://i.imgur.com/Egddm0D.png
https://i.imgur.com/JccUCcD.png

chat with middleman:
https://i.imgur.com/VeVvKnw.png


Trade history from steam:
https://i.imgur.com/JQ46H69.png

Screenshots also attached as files​

[17:50]
Sapphire:
hi?

[17:50]
Abuk007:
hi?

[17:50]
Sapphire:
can i ask you something

[17:51]
Abuk007:
why are you in first place
who*

[17:51]
Sapphire:
saphire
i want to ask you something
if you still selling dota2 items i mean the metiraaa

[17:52]
Abuk007:
well, yes its on marketplace

[17:54]
Sapphire:
how much do you sell it?
kinda price not stable

[17:55]
Abuk007:
100 euro

[17:55]
Sapphire:
oh its low
hmm
what payment method do you accept?

[17:59]
Abuk007:
ill finish the game and well talk

[17:59]
Sapphire:
ok sir
gl

[17:59]
Abuk007:
ty

[17:59]
Sapphire:
what is your rank btw?

[18:00]
Abuk007:
archon 5 now, so quite low

[18:00]
Sapphire:
oh i see
me only legend4

[18:54]
Sapphire:
you win?

[18:55]
Abuk007:
yep

[18:55]
Sapphire:
wow nice
i watch you
nice swap haha

[18:55]
Abuk007:
lol
shitty ggame with that juger quitting

[18:55]
Sapphire:
ya

[18:55]
Abuk007:
and i was making tea and eating pizza
while swapping
xd
so was hard

[18:55]
Sapphire:
hahaha
its ok you win


[18:55]
Abuk007:
ye i guess

[18:56]
Sapphire:
my price for metira
115euros to 120 euros since the price not stable

[18:58]
Abuk007:
fine, however im bit worried in regards to transaction

[18:58]
Sapphire:
oh
what payment method do you accept?

[18:59]
Abuk007:
id preffer paypal, however how can I be sure if you wont do a chargeback

[18:59]
Sapphire:
i cant do that
well
i can send first also cash if you have good reputations on cash
or this is your first time to sell in cash?

[18:59]
Abuk007:
im usualy selling on steam marketplace

[18:59]
Sapphire:
ah

[18:59]
Abuk007:
avoiding cash due to amount of scammers

[19:00]
Sapphire:
first timer to do?
yes
i know that
but i can give me email paypal and you can send request money
but im thinking how we deal
cuz you need safe
i need safe too right?

[19:00]
Abuk007:
sure thing

[19:00]
Sapphire:
do you have any idea or suggestion?
or i think its better also if we hire middleman from the official list i can cover the fees since im the buyer if you ok with it for our safety both

[19:02]
Abuk007:
give me a moment please

[19:02]
Sapphire:
okok
but your email paypal is verified?

[19:06]
Abuk007:
lets get a middleman from http://steamrep.com/list/M , 115 euro + you cover costs if needed for middleman.
yes my paypal is verified

[19:06]
Sapphire:
yes
sure
we hire mmiddleman sr
reddit
or d2l official
if you know
but wait
i need your
email paypal
so i can ready my money

[19:07]
Abuk007:
hmm
sure i can give paypal
issue is
how does middleman protect here
he would have to pass me the money

[19:07]
Sapphire:
do you know how it works?
middleman?
or first timer also?
first time to use middleman?

[19:08]
Abuk007:
im saying
if you pass to middleman
why do you need my paypal

[19:08]
Sapphire:
nono
im not passing the money to middleman
cuz
i send it to you directly
the money
here the list d2l official list

Official Middleman Service List Official Middleman list Current Trusted Middleman List: Click here if you require a Middleman! Currently Updated :: Dota2 Lounge
Welcome to official Dota2 Lounge Steam group.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/dota2lounge/discussions/11/1744478429688239123/

[19:09]
Abuk007:
if you send me money
you can chargeback

[19:09]
Sapphire:
Steam Community :: Alias
ːArmorEmoticonː Please confirm who you're dealing with this pre-trade checklist before trading with me ːArmorEmoticonː
https://steamcommunity.com/id/xAliasx

[19:09]
Abuk007:
im not protected

[19:09]
Sapphire:
Steam Community :: Yuki
No information given.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/YukiOfficialls

oh so i send the middleman?
the money?

Steam Community :: Alias
ːArmorEmoticonː Please confirm who you're dealing with this pre-trade checklist before trading with me ːArmorEmoticonː
https://steamcommunity.com/id/xAliasx

Steam Community :: Yuki
No information given.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/YukiOfficialls

2 middleman oline
check them

[19:10]
Abuk007:
ok

[19:10]
Sapphire:
or lets add them both
if they are accept we can ask them for help us
ok i added them already

[19:11]
Abuk007:
sure

[19:11]
Sapphire:
115euros?
right?

[19:11]
Abuk007:
yes

[19:15]
Sapphire:
bro?
so?
i send the money?
to you?
or middleman?
bro?
where i send the money
to you?

[19:19]
Abuk007:
to me as friend

[19:19]
Sapphire:
ok

[19:19]
Abuk007:
[email protected]

[19:19]
Sapphire:
do you have more items?

[19:20]
Abuk007:
nothing as valuable right now, no

[19:20]
Sapphire:
on market?
no more?

[19:20]
Abuk007:
unfortunately
just have trash items

[19:20]
Sapphire:
what items?
like arcana?

[19:21]
Abuk007:
no, just commons/rares/immortals
no arcanas

[19:33]
Abuk007:
cash didnt come yet

[19:40]
Abuk007:
they middleman is not responding
do i really need to report both on steamrep?
well fine
couldnt care less for the items, you will be banned though, both of you



--------------GROUP CHAT-------------------
Sapphire, Yuki have been invited by Abuk007

[19:12]
Abuk007:
hello guys
so, Yuki, problem at hand

[19:12]
Yuki:
hello trader

[19:12]
Sapphire:
hi
sir
need middleman

[19:12]
Abuk007:
Sapphire wants item from me for $$

[19:12]
Sapphire:
for dota2 items
im buying
via paypal
115euros

[19:12]
Abuk007:
we want for this to be secure, so chargeback doesnt happen and he gets item

[19:12]
Yuki:
Okay. is that true?
Mr seller?
Abuk007?

[19:13]
Abuk007:
yes, 115 euros
via paypal

[19:13]
Yuki:
Okay. Well guys do you know already the rules?

[19:13]
Sapphire:
yes sir

[19:13]
Abuk007:
im fresh

[19:13]
Yuki:
How about you seller?
So i will paste Here and read it Okay?

[19:14]
Abuk007:
sure, thanks

[19:14]
Yuki:
1. The seller will transfer the items to the middleman.
2. The buyer will pay the seller after the trade is complete. I will inform you guys here in groupchat.
3. I will ask the seller if he got the money I will not give the item to the buyer without the sellers permission
4. If the buyer did not pay the seller i will return the items to the owner. And make a permanently trade ban of the buyer
Just type done if you already done reading it

[19:14]
Abuk007:
right, what if a chargeback happens on paypal? thats what im mostly worried here

[19:15]
Sapphire:
i read it again sir im done

[19:15]
Yuki:
No i will return it back your items
I will not give the items to him if you not get the Money
Understand?

[19:15]
Abuk007:
yes, i understand
do you understand chargeback mechanism?

[19:16]
Yuki:
Yes,

[19:16]
Abuk007:
means i get money and after it gets reverted
what then
i lose item and lose money

[19:16]
Yuki:
just send family and friend @Buyer

[19:16]
Sapphire:
ok sir

[19:16]
Abuk007:
ok, lets see if it will work then
im fine

[19:16]
Yuki:
Okay so are you ready now guys?

[19:17]
Abuk007:
yes

[19:17]
Sapphire:
yes im ready

[19:17]
Yuki:
Okay @seller
Here my steam offer link
Steam offer me here
https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=863650003&token=dnPnt37W
And message me if you already done So i can go check first

[19:18]
Abuk007:
offer sent

[19:18]
Yuki:
@Sapphire Just be ready
Okay wait im checking
Trade Completed
1 new item acquired
from Abuk007
5mins for record this transaction

[19:19]
Sapphire:
ok sir

[19:22]
Yuki:
Okay @Sapphire send the money now

[19:22]
Sapphire:
ok sir
[email protected]
115euros

[19:22]
Abuk007:
correct

[19:22]
Sapphire:
sending

Yuki and Sapphire have left the Chat



-------------------middleman chat --------------------------


[19:11]
Yuki:
Hello trader
How can i help you?

[19:11]
Abuk007:
Hello Yuki!
ill add the other party ok?

[19:11]
Yuki:
Hello Abuk007
Okay,

[19:18]
Abuk007:
You sent Yuki a new trade offerView trade offer

[19:29]
Abuk007:
?
youve left group chat
i have not received money yet
hello?
Yuki? transaction is not complete

[19:42]
Abuk007:
Sir?

[19:51]
Abuk007:
reporting on steamrep

Confirming, first user is
| steamname: Sapphire
| steam3ID: [U:1:141528330]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:70764165
| steamID64: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198101794058
| customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/ESfour
| steamrep: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198101794058


Requested screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/lkh7hhQ.png

Also as attachement