Accepted 76561198061127088 (Intrari)

Victim:

|steamID: LuckynumberSven
|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:9732160
|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197979730048
|customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/jerye
|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197979730048


Scammer:

|steamID: Intrari
|steamID32: STEAM_0:0:50430680
|steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198061127088
|customURL:
|steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198061127088


Screenshots:
Album of screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/mwZXY
Chat log recorded with Chat Logger: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/19-11-12 - [U_1_100861360] - Intrari.txt?w=79aba1a9
Unfortunately that is the best I can provide in terms of a pictures of chat, as the buyer provided the appropriate "note" AND added rep to my dota2traders rep thread AND I had Chat Logger running in the background, I did not think twice to close the chat window.

Description:
Sold the buyer 150 treasure keys. Received paypal first but once completed, the buyer disputed after about half an hour to an hour. The buyer even posted +rep on my dota2traders rep thread: http://dota2traders.com/threads/remys-reputation-thread.21311/#post-111853

On paypal, I sent in all the evidence I collected. A full account of which can be seen on my reddit post here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/13g6nv/scammer_intrari_michael_liu/

I made a call to paypal today and they closed the case and refunded the money to me. An updated reddit post is available here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Trade/comments/13hrsx/psa_scammer_update_intrari_michael_liu/

Full transcript:

Code:

[19-11-12 8:50:01 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: whatsup
[19-11-12 8:50:11 p.m.] Intrari: hey! i'm interested in purchasing your keys
[19-11-12 8:50:15 p.m.] Intrari: which middleman would you want to use?
[19-11-12 8:50:23 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: were u the reddit guy?
[19-11-12 8:50:27 p.m.] Intrari: yes
[19-11-12 8:50:34 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: cool
[19-11-12 8:50:41 p.m.] Intrari: im looking at steamrep right now
[19-11-12 8:50:46 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: are we cool yet?
[19-11-12 8:50:48 p.m.] Intrari: and wuvs is online
[19-11-12 8:50:51 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: i have him as a friend
[19-11-12 8:50:56 p.m.] Intrari: oh nice
[19-11-12 8:51:10 p.m.] Intrari: this is actually my first time doing this
[19-11-12 8:51:12 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: um cud u gimme some time
[19-11-12 8:51:14 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: in a game atm
[19-11-12 8:51:16 p.m.] Intrari: sure
[19-11-12 10:11:27 p.m.] Intrari: long game o_o
[19-11-12 10:11:38 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol yea my bad
[19-11-12 10:11:41 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: will be done after this
[19-11-12 10:11:45 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: and deal with u:)
[19-11-12 10:11:50 p.m.] Intrari: kk!
[19-11-12 10:47:14 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: u here/
[19-11-12 10:47:15 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: ?
[19-11-12 11:00:15 p.m.] Intrari: hey
[19-11-12 11:02:24 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol sry saw u away in game now brb
[19-11-12 11:09:51 p.m.] Intrari: oh kk
[19-11-12 11:32:30 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: here now
[19-11-12 11:34:12 p.m.] Intrari: kk
[19-11-12 11:34:14 p.m.] Intrari: umm
[19-11-12 11:34:20 p.m.] Intrari: so which middleman are we using?
[19-11-12 11:34:27 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: are we cool?
[19-11-12 11:34:37 p.m.] Intrari: cool as ice
[19-11-12 11:34:37 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: from steamrep
[19-11-12 11:34:54 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: hes offline now
[19-11-12 11:34:59 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol
[19-11-12 11:36:39 p.m.] Intrari: :(
[19-11-12 11:36:51 p.m.] Intrari: is tehre another one thats online right now?
[19-11-12 11:37:29 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: added based cat
[19-11-12 11:37:31 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: from steamrep
[19-11-12 11:37:36 p.m.] Intrari: kk
[19-11-12 11:37:37 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: hes online but not sure if hes at pc
[19-11-12 11:37:53 p.m.] Intrari: or we can try Leon from dota2traders
[19-11-12 11:37:54 p.m.] Intrari: hes the owner
[19-11-12 11:37:59 p.m.] Intrari: and his steamrep looks good
[19-11-12 11:37:59 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: i have him too
[19-11-12 11:38:02 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: hes sleeping
[19-11-12 11:38:05 p.m.] Intrari: oh
[19-11-12 11:48:33 p.m.] Intrari: wait are we still dealing?
[19-11-12 11:48:39 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah
[19-11-12 11:48:40 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: sec
[19-11-12 11:48:45 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: last game
[19-11-12 11:48:47 p.m.] LuckynumberSven: i rpomise lol
[19-11-12 11:49:27 p.m.] Intrari: haha okay
[20-11-12 12:37:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: here
[20-11-12 12:37:23 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: msging leon
[20-11-12 12:37:55 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: kinda hard to get middleman
[20-11-12 12:41:38 a.m.] Intrari: ><
[20-11-12 12:41:39 a.m.] Intrari: kk
[20-11-12 12:42:21 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: no idea where they all are atm
[20-11-12 12:43:12 a.m.] Intrari: hmm
[20-11-12 12:43:16 a.m.] Intrari: do u have a rep thread on steamrep?
[20-11-12 12:44:27 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: my rep thread
[20-11-12 12:44:29 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: is on my profile
[20-11-12 12:44:34 a.m.] Intrari: yeah i just saw
[20-11-12 12:44:37 a.m.] Intrari: the dota2traders one
[20-11-12 12:44:45 a.m.] Intrari: im willing to go first
[20-11-12 12:44:46 a.m.] Intrari: but
[20-11-12 12:44:54 a.m.] Intrari: a group of keys at a time
[20-11-12 12:44:59 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yup
[20-11-12 12:45:02 a.m.] Intrari: how many are u selling?
[20-11-12 12:45:03 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: sounds fair
[20-11-12 12:45:07 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: let me check
[20-11-12 12:45:17 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: ill show u my invent
[20-11-12 12:45:41 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: feel free to inspect since im trading with u
[20-11-12 12:46:04 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: I have upwards of 150 that I am selling
[20-11-12 12:47:19 a.m.] Intrari: hmm okay
[20-11-12 12:47:30 a.m.] Intrari: i'll take in multiples of 30?
[20-11-12 12:47:46 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: trhats fine. 2.2 each?
[20-11-12 12:48:28 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and i suppose u will handle the fees?
[20-11-12 12:49:34 a.m.] Intrari: mm well my thread actually said 2.15
[20-11-12 12:49:48 a.m.] Intrari: what are the fees?
[20-11-12 12:49:56 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah 50+ are 2.2 or something if i remember
[20-11-12 12:50:01 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: paypal has transaction fees
[20-11-12 12:50:09 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: which the buyer usually picks up
[20-11-12 12:50:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: when u send as gift
[20-11-12 12:50:22 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: u can click u will pay the fees
[20-11-12 12:50:49 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: I'm trying to iron out a deal for an Ethereal Flame courier from someone who only accepts keys, which is why I need so many; we will use a middleman from SteamRep or Dota2Traders. I prefer if you can at least sell me a big chunk of keys at once (I will give 2.2EA if someone can offer me 50+), so I can cut down on how many people I deal. Thanks in advance.
[20-11-12 12:50:59 a.m.] Intrari: oh right i forgot
[20-11-12 12:51:02 a.m.] Intrari: yeah ill do 2.2
[20-11-12 12:51:04 a.m.] Intrari: as a gift?
[20-11-12 12:51:16 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah when u send payment
[20-11-12 12:51:19 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: send it as a gift
[20-11-12 12:51:27 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and tick u will handle fees
[20-11-12 12:51:35 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: also add a note to the payment:
[20-11-12 12:51:53 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: This is payment for virtual goods in dota2. I will not perform a chargeback.
[20-11-12 12:52:11 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: pretty standard for paypal transactions
[20-11-12 12:52:23 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: cause there have been cases where buyers chargeback
[20-11-12 12:52:28 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: aftetr taking the item
[20-11-12 12:52:49 a.m.] Intrari: i can only add a note if its a gift?
[20-11-12 12:53:09 a.m.] Intrari: i mean i understand the thing about chargebacks
[20-11-12 12:53:20 a.m.] Intrari: but sending as a gift seems...sketch
[20-11-12 12:53:27 a.m.] Intrari: i dont mind adding a note saying i wont chargeback
[20-11-12 12:53:43 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i dont mind not sending as gift
[20-11-12 12:53:48 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: if u add a little for the fees
[20-11-12 12:53:51 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: that they will charge me
[20-11-12 12:53:59 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: ill show u an example
[20-11-12 12:54:10 a.m.] Intrari: kk
[20-11-12 12:55:43 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: http://i.imgur.com/qW56X.png
[20-11-12 12:55:49 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: thats from one of my transactions
[20-11-12 12:55:54 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i sold a hook for $22
[20-11-12 12:56:01 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and there is a fee
[20-11-12 12:56:14 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: so what i received was 20.84 instead of what i actually should have received
[20-11-12 12:58:00 a.m.] Intrari: oh i see
[20-11-12 12:58:05 a.m.] Intrari: so is that a % based amount?
[20-11-12 12:58:09 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: ill show u what i meant by gift
[20-11-12 1:00:17 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: http://imgur.com/a/ljNZX
[20-11-12 1:00:29 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: the gift just means clicking personal payments
[20-11-12 1:00:32 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and clicking other
[20-11-12 1:00:50 a.m.] Intrari: i see
[20-11-12 1:00:53 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: second img shows u further details where u will click
[20-11-12 1:00:57 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: I will pay the fees
[20-11-12 1:01:01 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and in the message box
[20-11-12 1:01:04 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: thats what you type
[20-11-12 1:01:20 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: just showing u an example. thats my personal paypal.
[20-11-12 1:02:01 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: if you're fine with that. im good :)
[20-11-12 1:02:33 a.m.] Intrari: oh okay
[20-11-12 1:02:37 a.m.] Intrari: yeah ill pay fees
[20-11-12 1:03:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: cool
[20-11-12 1:03:17 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: 30 a time?
[20-11-12 1:03:28 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: my paypal email is [email protected]
[20-11-12 1:03:33 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: [email protected]
[20-11-12 1:04:22 a.m.] Intrari: kk
[20-11-12 1:04:27 a.m.] Intrari: so how much is 30 including fees?
[20-11-12 1:04:46 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: 30 is $66 not sure how much the fees
[20-11-12 1:04:50 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: just send personal payment
[20-11-12 1:05:01 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: and tick the "I will pay the fees" box
[20-11-12 1:05:08 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: it will calculate automatically
[20-11-12 1:05:16 a.m.] Intrari: i mean like
[20-11-12 1:05:19 a.m.] Intrari: if we do the purchase option
[20-11-12 1:05:25 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: oh ok
[20-11-12 1:05:57 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: 69.53
[20-11-12 1:06:04 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: the fee is 3.53
[20-11-12 1:06:19 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: remember to include the note okay :)
[20-11-12 1:07:00 a.m.] Intrari: yupyup
[20-11-12 1:07:12 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: msg me when u do so i can check :)
[20-11-12 1:09:16 a.m.] Intrari: usd right?
[20-11-12 1:09:19 a.m.] Intrari: btw just curious
[20-11-12 1:09:21 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah
[20-11-12 1:09:21 a.m.] Intrari: why is it 3.53?
[20-11-12 1:09:23 a.m.] Intrari: is it a %?
[20-11-12 1:09:24 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: no idea
[20-11-12 1:09:25 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah
[20-11-12 1:09:27 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i suppose
[20-11-12 1:10:43 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: wait
[20-11-12 1:10:50 a.m.] Intrari: done!
[20-11-12 1:10:53 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: kjk
[20-11-12 1:12:10 a.m.] Intrari: please please please dont run away hahaha
[20-11-12 1:12:15 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lmao chill im here
[20-11-12 1:12:20 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: u can see my account
[20-11-12 1:12:21 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: is old ass
[20-11-12 1:12:24 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: with tons of games
[20-11-12 1:13:44 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: did u send me CAD or something?
[20-11-12 1:14:09 a.m.] Intrari: oh crap did i?
[20-11-12 1:14:23 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: Accept or Deny this Payment


Michael Liu - Non-U.S. Verified Personal Member (0) has sent you $69.53 CAD. Please select what you would like to do with this payment:

Accept this payment and convert it to $67.74 USD.

Accept this payment in Canadian Dollars and create a balance in this currency.

Deny this payment and return the money to the sender.
[20-11-12 1:14:26 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol
[20-11-12 1:14:31 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: ill deny and refund
[20-11-12 1:14:35 a.m.] Intrari: kk
[20-11-12 1:14:59 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: denied
[20-11-12 1:15:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol thats why i was wondering why it didnt update my USD balance
[20-11-12 1:15:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lmao
[20-11-12 1:15:27 a.m.] Intrari: haha
[20-11-12 1:15:54 a.m.] Intrari: hmm yeah ur account is very old
[20-11-12 1:16:03 a.m.] Intrari: its really late so im tempted
[20-11-12 1:16:04 a.m.] Intrari: to just
[20-11-12 1:16:07 a.m.] Intrari: trust uw ith full payment
[20-11-12 1:16:22 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: your call. it would make it way easier
[20-11-12 1:16:34 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i have all night
[20-11-12 1:16:35 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:16:41 a.m.] Intrari: >< im super dead
[20-11-12 1:16:42 a.m.] Intrari: haha
[20-11-12 1:16:45 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol
[20-11-12 1:16:54 a.m.] Intrari: okay whats the full payment?
[20-11-12 1:17:11 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lemme figure out
[20-11-12 1:17:18 a.m.] Intrari: kk
[20-11-12 1:20:02 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: just figured out how they charged fees
[20-11-12 1:20:08 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: cross border transaction fees are
[20-11-12 1:20:17 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: 3.9% + 0.30 USD
[20-11-12 1:20:29 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: for transactions below 5000NZD
[20-11-12 1:20:34 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i am in NZ btw
[20-11-12 1:20:41 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: so the total is
[20-11-12 1:20:49 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: 150 * 2.2 = $330
[20-11-12 1:21:02 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: fees are 3.9% * 330 = 13.17
[20-11-12 1:21:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: total = 330 + 13.17 = 343.17
[20-11-12 1:21:33 a.m.] Intrari: so usd right?
[20-11-12 1:21:51 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yup
[20-11-12 1:21:55 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i can receive USD
[20-11-12 1:22:03 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: only USD and NZD
[20-11-12 1:22:07 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol not CAD
[20-11-12 1:22:12 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: so 343.17 USD
[20-11-12 1:23:03 a.m.] Intrari: sent
[20-11-12 1:23:32 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: checking
[20-11-12 1:24:49 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: http://i.imgur.com/bvUjK.png
[20-11-12 1:24:57 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: thats right?
[20-11-12 1:25:18 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: not sure what happedn to the fee amount lol got charged higher
[20-11-12 1:25:20 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: no issues
[20-11-12 1:25:22 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: still good :)
[20-11-12 1:25:37 a.m.] Intrari: >< haha thanks
[20-11-12 1:26:20 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: awesome
[20-11-12 1:26:21 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:31:54 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: might take a while
[20-11-12 1:31:56 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: tons of keys
[20-11-12 1:32:01 a.m.] Intrari: haha kk
[20-11-12 1:32:23 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: completed!
[20-11-12 1:33:02 a.m.] Intrari: oh my i thought my comp crashed
[20-11-12 1:33:03 a.m.] Intrari: haha
[20-11-12 1:33:06 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol wut
[20-11-12 1:33:06 a.m.] Intrari: thanks for the trade! it was great
[20-11-12 1:33:09 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah
[20-11-12 1:33:15 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: mind +reping my thread
[20-11-12 1:33:16 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: http://dota2traders.com/threads/remys-reputation-thread.21311/
[20-11-12 1:33:22 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: i can do urs if u have one
[20-11-12 1:33:32 a.m.] Intrari: actually im a noob that bought keys in dota store until today
[20-11-12 1:33:35 a.m.] Intrari: ><
[20-11-12 1:33:38 a.m.] Intrari: but i will def rep you
[20-11-12 1:33:46 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: +rep I went first bought 150 keys, he sent keys after.
[20-11-12 1:33:49 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: say that!
[20-11-12 1:33:50 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:33:55 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: thanks lol
[20-11-12 1:33:59 a.m.] Intrari: u too!
[20-11-12 1:34:04 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: let me know if u need anyuthing else
[20-11-12 1:34:05 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:34:07 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: haha well
[20-11-12 1:34:08 a.m.] Intrari: oh i have to make an acc first
[20-11-12 1:34:10 a.m.] Intrari: kk haha
[20-11-12 1:34:11 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: newbies will buy
[20-11-12 1:34:13 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: from store
[20-11-12 1:34:14 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: no u dont
[20-11-12 1:34:19 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: just use steam to long in
[20-11-12 1:34:21 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: log in
[20-11-12 1:34:26 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :) to dota 2 traders forum
[20-11-12 1:34:37 a.m.] Intrari: ooh kk
[20-11-12 1:36:13 a.m.] Intrari: done! thanks again
[20-11-12 1:36:14 a.m.] Intrari: take care
[20-11-12 1:36:24 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: thanks man
[20-11-12 1:36:25 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:36:34 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: btw i have family in vancouver
[20-11-12 1:36:36 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:36:43 a.m.] Intrari: oh awesome
[20-11-12 1:36:44 a.m.] Intrari: great city
[20-11-12 1:36:47 a.m.] Intrari: heheh
[20-11-12 1:36:53 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: aparently too cold
[20-11-12 1:36:54 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: all the time
[20-11-12 1:36:56 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lol
[20-11-12 1:37:30 a.m.] Intrari: oh yeah
[20-11-12 1:37:34 a.m.] Intrari: perfect for snowboarding
[20-11-12 1:37:35 a.m.] Intrari: :D
[20-11-12 1:37:43 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: dota 2 > outdoor
[20-11-12 1:37:45 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: haha jk
[20-11-12 1:37:46 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yeah
[20-11-12 1:38:46 a.m.] Intrari: haha
[20-11-12 1:38:51 a.m.] Intrari: anyways time to sleep!
[20-11-12 1:38:52 a.m.] Intrari: cyas
[20-11-12 1:38:53 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: yup
[20-11-12 1:38:54 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: cya man
[20-11-12 1:38:57 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: lmk if i can help
[20-11-12 1:38:58 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: u
[20-11-12 1:38:59 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: in the future
[20-11-12 1:39:00 a.m.] LuckynumberSven: :)
[20-11-12 1:39:03 a.m.] Intrari: for sure !:)
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Marking him now- thanks for the report.