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  1. Mr.SpyCat

    Mr.SpyCat New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Trade Offer Fraud] Using Trade Offer URL fraud
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561199112011323

    Victim profile: 76561198005969384

    What happened? Description:
    so i was selling my chroma cases for money at www.steamtrades.com he comment to my post and he add me to steam. at first he told if i accept paypal and he ask me if have rep on any site i told him i do not have any rep so i told him i will go first just write to www.steamtrades.com that you accept the offer. after that he told me that the cases he gonna sell them to someone else.
    after he accepted the price i wanted for my cases he commented at www.steamtrades.com accept 660 cases for 400€. after that he told me that the cases is for one of his friend and he do the mediator and i ask him to do 2 parts the trading 50% cases, for 50% money x2 so i will be sure that i dont get a full scam and he accepted.
    so i send him the trade offer and when he accepted the offer he to told me that his friend dont accept the 2 parts offer. and was sorry or such and that will send me the cases after one week. and after one week he comes and telling me that his friend accept one day before the offer and send him my cases. the rest you can see check from my photos/evidence​

    Provide Evidence:

    Thursday, November 4, 2021

    [11/4/2021, 6:36 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    hello

    [11/4/2021, 6:41 PM]
    Evon:
    Hello
    do you accept paypal?

    [11/4/2021, 6:48 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    revolut i prefer more if you have the option

    [11/4/2021, 6:48 PM]
    Evon:
    I don't use it
    Have you got rep on any sites?
    How do you want to do the trade?

    [11/4/2021, 6:49 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    i dont remember where i was trading years ago
    let me check
    because i stop playing around 6-7 months after chroma case release
    ahm
    i dont know paypal i guess is ok

    [11/4/2021, 6:53 PM]
    Evon:
    yeah but you haven't got rep so I can't go first

    [11/4/2021, 6:53 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    yeah its ok
    just write accepted for 400€ at steam trades

    [11/4/2021, 6:54 PM]
    Evon:
    I can 400usd
    not euro

    [11/4/2021, 6:55 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    then no sorry
    346€ is to low
    but thank you very much for your offer and your time

    [11/4/2021, 6:57 PM]
    Evon:
    I will sell these to another guy

    [11/4/2021, 6:57 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    i know how is going i was trader for many years

    [11/4/2021, 6:57 PM]
    Evon:
    I will let you if I get a better offer

    [11/4/2021, 6:58 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    yes ofc i will happy to trade with you

    [11/4/2021, 6:58 PM]
    Evon:
    but I don't have "Storage Unit"
    Would it be a problem?

    [11/4/2021, 6:58 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    the only problem is i was trader years ago and there was not many rep sites
    i think not

    [11/4/2021, 6:59 PM]
    Evon:
    I got it

    [11/4/2021, 6:59 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    the maximum items you can have in your inventory in csgo i think is 1000

    [11/4/2021, 6:59 PM]
    Evon:
    I will back to you tomorrow, I think I'll get them
    then its okay

    [11/4/2021, 7:00 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    yes sir.
    ok i will wait then if not a better offer pop up

    [11/4/2021, 7:01 PM]
    Evon:
    okay seeya

    [11/4/2021, 7:02 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    cu!

    Friday, November 5, 2021

    [11/5/2021, 4:07 PM]
    Evon:
    Hi, we can trade when you are ready

    [11/5/2021, 5:00 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    hey
    yes write accepted here: https://www.steamtrades.com/trade/ASQgM/selling-chroma-cases first
    and we do the trade in a bit

    [11/5/2021, 5:01 PM]
    Evon:
    done

    [11/5/2021, 5:07 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    οκ ι αμ at work
    give me some time to send you the cases
    can we do in 2 transactions?

    [11/5/2021, 5:09 PM]
    Evon:
    okay you can send whener you want, I will back in max 1 hour
    see you later

    [11/5/2021, 5:09 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    send you the first 330 for 200 and the other 330 for other 200?
    ok we talk in one hour then

    [11/5/2021, 6:58 PM]
    Evon:
    Are you there?

    [11/5/2021, 7:12 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    heyyy
    yeah still at work xD
    good thing is i have team viewer to pass my time :D

    [11/5/2021, 7:17 PM]
    Evon:
    :D
    then write to me when you are at home

    [11/5/2021, 7:17 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    no its ok
    we can start now
    can we split in 4 sections the trade? i have trust issues

    [11/5/2021, 7:18 PM]
    Evon:
    sorry I can't

    [11/5/2021, 7:18 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    or atleast 3 or 2
    why not?

    [11/5/2021, 7:19 PM]
    Evon:
    sounds good to 2
    cuz I don't send your money
    a friend will

    [11/5/2021, 7:19 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    is your friend trusted?

    [11/5/2021, 7:20 PM]
    Evon:
    yep no problem

    [11/5/2021, 7:20 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    ok
    ok
    i will send you the trade offer

    [11/5/2021, 7:21 PM]
    Evon:
    I have to wait a week to trade again, right?
    okay

    [11/5/2021, 7:21 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    hmm\
    i rly dont know

    [11/5/2021, 7:21 PM]
    Evon:
    okay lets trade

    [11/5/2021, 7:25 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    You sent Evon a new trade offerView trade offer
    [email protected]
    paypal

    [11/5/2021, 7:28 PM]
    Evon:
    okay please wait I have to talk with him

    [11/5/2021, 7:29 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    ok

    [11/5/2021, 7:40 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    bad news or good news?

    [11/5/2021, 7:40 PM]
    Evon:
    I'm so sorry he doesn't accept this because we didn't agree with him like that I thought he wouldn't mind this
    I can give back to you your cases 1 week later

    [11/5/2021, 7:42 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    is this so much problem wth

    [11/5/2021, 7:42 PM]
    Evon:
    It is not a problem to me but he doesn't accept

    [11/5/2021, 7:43 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    why you didnt ask him before accept the offer

    [11/5/2021, 7:43 PM]
    Evon:
    Nope sorry
    I thought he wouldn't mind this
    If I had money I could pay

    [11/5/2021, 7:46 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    ok talk to the steam support if they can return the trade offer
    otherwise we have a problem

    [11/5/2021, 7:46 PM]
    Evon:
    okay I will talk
    he thought we were going to do the whole trade in one go

    [11/5/2021, 7:49 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    is just gonna take 2 more minutes of his life wow
    unacceptable

    [11/5/2021, 7:50 PM]
    Evon:
    I'm sorry
    I wrote to steam support
    At worst, I return the cases after 1 week

    [11/5/2021, 7:53 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    Can u send me a picture of the ticket?

    [11/5/2021, 7:59 PM]
    Evon:
    oaky 1 moment
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....627/B135B713539DC2EE3533E87312827747A29F93FB/

    [11/5/2021, 8:09 PM]
    Evon:
    If I get a good game, I will give you some of them as apology
    I'm really sorry

    [11/5/2021, 8:15 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    Im very sad because the money is for medical reasons anyway i will take a pic from all this to report if dont have my items back
    Try to speak with your friend if he wants all this for 380€ for the misunderstanding
    2 part trading like i tell you before

    [11/5/2021, 8:19 PM]
    Evon:
    Okay
    I will speak with him

    [11/5/2021, 8:35 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    And if got scammed just tell that to me to move on and not looking the chat every 20min

    [11/5/2021, 8:59 PM]
    Evon:
    I am not a scammer and I talked to him but he still doesn't trust you cuz you don't have any rep
    also, he is I told you about him
    I would resell these items to him

    [11/5/2021, 9:04 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    cant trust me? but i go first where is the scam from my position?
    50% cases, for 50% money x2
    How is it a scam? i give 330 cases, he gives me 190 euro, i give him 330 cases, he gives me 190 euro for a total of 660 cases for 380 euro

    [11/5/2021, 9:36 PM]
    Evon:
    Yeah you are right but he still doesn’t want to this trade
    Because he doesn’t get the cases
    I got them

    Sunday, November 7, 2021

    [11/7/2021, 9:23 PM]
    Evon:
    hey mate, what do you think? I need to convince one of you two.

    Monday, November 8, 2021

    [Monday 6:25 AM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    hello
    im not gonna send the other half for sure before i get paid for the first half
    because i feel alrdy scammed
    because you give me the ok and you accepted the offer before speak with your friend
    you accepted frist trade 50% of the cases for 50% of the payment and the other half second trade
    after you accepted the cases it was your responsibility the trade to go smooth
    even if you do the mediator

    [Monday 7:58 AM]
    Evon:
    yeah but there you have a problem here too because you were the one who changed the trade at the last minute
    that's why I didn't get a chance to ask him
    and I don't have a trust issues
    you don't trust me and he doesn't trust either of us
    this trade is no longer my trade

    Friday, November 12, 2021

    [Yesterday, 3:36 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    hello
    tonight we are gonna do the return?

    Saturday, November 13, 2021

    [10:15 AM]
    Evon:
    Hello, I talked with him again and he accepted the trade

    [10:31 AM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    He wants now?

    [12:25 PM]
    Evon:
    Yes he accepted yesterday
    I already send the cases to him He will add you on steam then send your money
    I don't want to become a part of this trade anymore like I told you
    So trade with him

    [12:27 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    ok send me the cases then

    [12:27 PM]
    Evon:
    ?

    [12:28 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    you told me you are not gonna be part of this trade right?

    [12:28 PM]
    Evon:
    don't you read what am I writing?

    [12:28 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    oh

    [12:28 PM]
    Evon:
    he accepted the trade

    [12:28 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    and why you send him the cases before send me the money?
    what if we get scamm?

    [12:29 PM]
    Evon:
    he will add to you
    then send the cases

    [12:29 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    no i mean
    why you send the cases to him before i get any money?

    [12:31 PM]
    Evon:
    don't you want to trade?

    [12:31 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    you still dont answer my above question

    [12:32 PM]
    Evon:
    because he has got good reputation and you both want to trade
    that's why I don't want to be in the trade, you act like a child

    [12:33 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    no i dont act like a child i cant like someone who thinks he get scammed

    [12:34 PM]
    Evon:
    this trade is no longer my trade please talk with him
    I don't have money and cases too
    I already was the mediator

    [12:35 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    want me to act like a businessman? he have 12 hours to send me the 1st 200€ for the cases. after that i report to every site

    [12:35 PM]
    Evon:
    :D are you seriously?
    I don't have any cases

    [12:36 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    you had. and you give them away before ask my opinion. it was my cases
    i have alrdy take screenshots for everything and updated to google drive to send them to each trading site

    [12:39 PM]
    Evon:
    Why are you talking to me?
    Go and get your money
    I don't have anything

    [12:39 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    where to go exactly? i dont have any invite
    or you didnt say wwho is this guy

    [12:41 PM]
    Evon:
    Steam Community :: ChemicalRespite
    https://steamcommunity.com/id/76561189051871780/

    I already send your profile and paypal link to him
    and told him the same things
    he accepted the trade and I won't be a mediator

    [12:44 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    ok will see i hope you are right about this

    [12:47 PM]
    Evon:
    Sorry for everything but although I caused some problems, you were the ones who caused the main problems, thats why I don't want to be a mediator
    I hope you can trade without any problems
    I deleted him because I didn't want to be a part of this trade and will delete you too
    Have a nice day

    [12:49 PM]
    Mr.SpyCat:
    for the 1st 200€ you still have responsibility

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    also one more photo i found when he accepted at steamstrades.com

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Please provide a full screen shot of your Trade Inventory History showing for sure the trade in question(NOT TRADE OFFER!!)- open this with a web browser, move your mouse over the users name in question so it shows up the hypertext popup URL at the bottom of the screen - take the screen shot DO NOT edit it in anyway and upload. Also need a screen shot of your Paypal ACTIVITY (not Summary) for several days beginning with the date before this trade..full screen DO NOT edit this shot in anyway. Upload HERE…NOT imgur, NOT gyazo or any other 3rd party hosting site!

    Also please review this screenshot guide should you require assistance:

    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
  4. Mr.SpyCat

    Mr.SpyCat New User

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    i have also some info about the 115€ csgo cases in my paypal transactions what is about aand from who:
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  5. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Need a full screen of your paypal settings showing the email address as noted in the settings to match that of what you gave.
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  7. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Did you have any conversation/contact with the other user at all? Or did you just send them a blind trade offer with items in it?
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    there was a long conversation with the user Evon. with the other guy who evon's mention no. o dont understand the blind trade offer you metion. because every trade you make for money with other users always gonna be blind
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    Let me rephrase the questions - did you or did you not talk to the other user? Did you or did you not just send them a trade offer with nothing in it but items?
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    yes I sent the trade with only my cases because evon (the mediator of the trade, and the person who initially contacted me) said that the trade was fine, so I sent 50% of the cases and afterwards, I was meant to be receiving 50% of the money. Once the money was received, I was going to send the rest of the cases and they were going to send the rest of the money.
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    I do not see any chat logs with the other user...do you have those? Yes (if so provide) if not just say No.
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    ok then no. im sorry for not understanding
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    ok then that other users info will be hidden as you have no evidence against them and they are not seen guilty of anything here with regards to this report.
    I'll review everything else with the reported user soon..no need to reply again.
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    sorry for replying again something i just find out. at screenshot_8 he says that the other user have good reputation. looking at streamtrades: https://www.steamtrades.com/user/76561199055910549 thats all nothing else. and i just want to say thank you for your time reviewing my report
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    Going to need some additional screenshots.
    Need one more just like you took of the trade inventory history the first time I asked.
    Also need the same thing but just thru steam client.
    Both Full screenshots.

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Client URL needs to be enabled for steam client screenshots..that's in screenshot guide.
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    Mr.SpyCat New User

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    im done giving my time to this. i got scammed i lost my items for nothing. i try to report a user so no one else get scammed from this user. i have nothing to win and nothing to lose more that alrdy lost. you have so many evidence from me alrdy..work with them if you can. if you cant use them you can cancel my report and thank you for your time you alrdy put on this.
    im trying to forget this thing so i dont want coming back here to this post and getting riminder that i got scammed.
  19. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I can't help it if you don't provide proper evidence - the links explaining what is required and how its required have been up for years and nobody else has a problem with it.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/

    I'll give you additional 24hours to provide.

    Keep in mind no matter what tags we issue here if at all, does that prevent the user from trading, only Valve can prevent that.
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Declined for lack of evidence and proper follow up - please do not submit another report here unless you are willing to follow proper evidence requirements.
    Not only does this waste valuable time meant for other reports but it strains our resources.

    This user was not found guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Declined.
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