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Archived Appeal Review for 76561198057483370 (Ivo Jr)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by Ivo Jr, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. Ivo Jr

    Ivo Jr Banned on SteamRep

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    Appeal Review Request
    Reminder: Appeal reviews are not appeals!

    Reason for Appeal Review: Other extenuating circumstance at admins' discretion. NOT USUALLY GRANTED!!!
    Past Appeal: https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198057483370-civeson-banned-by-sr.180713/

    Steam profile: 76561198057483370 (Ivo Jr)

    Make your case:
    way back in 2016 I tried to scam someone while I was 14, it was the only time I attempted to scam someone and it did not end well. I was steamrep banned. 2 Years later I tried to appeal the ban as I had matured and wanted to get back into csgo skins. I must have gotten busy or just forgot as the appeal was rejected from lack of response.

    Fast forward to 2023 and I want to get back into csgo skins with the release of cs2. I went to appeal again only to be rejected as you cannot appeal twice. It is now 7 years on from when I was banned as a 14 year old. Being in my 20's now it is quiet annoying to try and trade in the community being steamrep banned.

    I'm hoping whoever sees this that they can believe a 14 year old can mature enough in 7 years to learn not to try and scam people and to earn their own money to afford things they want. I have bought multiple expensive skins since then. I will attach them as proof. View attachment 806808 View attachment 806809 View attachment 806810

    It is quiet frustrating that the rule is only one appeal. I feel as if without special consideration I would be banned forever.

    I take full responsibility for my actions back in 2016 and all I can say is that I'm remorseful that I acted that way and I have since grown to appreciated owning my own skins bought with my own money.

    I hope you can understand my predicament!
    Thanks in advance.​

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  2. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    In order to qualify for special handling, where we overturn your original appeal outcome, recuse the admin from your case, and grant special permission to re-appeal, under the reason you selected, you need to prove that rare, special circumstances apply to your case which would not apply to anyone else. Otherwise, we'd be giving you that special treatment would just be favoritism.
    • Time passed since the original offense(s) does not qualify as an extenuating circumstance, the tag is permanent by nature.
    • Not wanting the public to know you have scammed or be afraid you might scam again if they find out doesn't qualify as an extenuating circumstance.
    • Buying more expensive items after you got a head start with the money you stole does not qualify as an extenuating circumstance either, wealth does not buy you reputation, integrity, or trustworthiness.
    I'm sorry to say, by policy, one appeal per lifetime is just that, your one and only appeal in this lifetime. (Same rule applies to appeal reviews, by the way.)
    It seems you already understand what permanent means.

    Is there anything else I missed here?
  3. Ivo Jr

    Ivo Jr Banned on SteamRep

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    1. I understand time passing is not a extenuating circumstance but how else am I suppose to have an appeal if the one from 2018 cannot be reopened. Is that my one attempt done and dusted for good even though I never got to discuss my case?
    2. This is a valid point. The most annoying thing is not being able to sign into csgofloat to use their search function.
    3. I tried scamming once, failed, and got banned. I have never earnt a single cent off scamming.

    It seems to me that there is no consideration at all. It's not like I scammed 100's of people. I attempted it once and learnt my lesson. Now I'm stuck in this stupid situation where I can't even appeal because of the appeal I forgot about in 2018.
    Please enlighten me as to how I can possibly become unbanned if at all.
  4. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    You don't. It's one appeal, per person, per lifetime. That's it. By default, unless successfully appealed, tags are permanent. You get one chance to appeal, and once that appeal is rejected (most appeals are) you have no chance at getting it removed, ever. There were multiple warnings about this in the appeal guide you were prompted to read when filling out your appeal form. Appeal reviews are for rare, extenuating circumstances, where you're not only innocent but you can show due process was not followed. They're not for someone who was guilty, had a proper appeal, and still doesn't like the outcome. We laid out several examples of what would qualify for appeal reviews in the form you filled out. They're not a place for you to beg for another chance because you don't like the consequences of your actions. No matter how much you beg, and no matter how I personally feel about it even if you did manage to convince me you were trustworthy and safe to trade with (you haven't) I cannot grant you permissions to re-appeal without a solid justification, even if I want to. The option you selected specifically says "not usually granted" for a reason; to date, I can't think of a single time we have granted special permission for a re-appeal after that option was selected. So it stands to reason that arguing "please give me another chance it was a long time ago and people don't trust me because they knew I scammed tried to scam," like countless scammers before you have also done, is only going to use up your once-per-lifetime claim at an appeal review.
    If you only had 1 offense, then I suggest you keep your eyes open for our upcoming scammer clemency program. I'm sorry to say we don't have a timeline for it right now, but some of the arguments you're making (time since offense, number of scams committed/attempted, severity of scam, etc.) might be factors for consideration when that program is opened.
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    Now, before I close out your once-per-lifetime appeal review, is there anything else I missed?
  5. Ivo Jr

    Ivo Jr Banned on SteamRep

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    No that is all.

    Thank you for your time and understanding. It must be hard dealing with so many of these.

    See you in the next lifetime :)