Accepted Report: 76561198223897044 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198223897044

Victim profile: 76561198020099596

What happened? Description:

He wanted to buy my skins. We went on discord and did a trade, after which he didn't pay me. Then kept stringing me along trying to scam me out of my knife aswell.​

Provide Evidence:

https://imgur.com/a/VL1LPig

all the written communication i have had with him. The deal was done over a discord call.

i can no longer look at their profile because they have blocked me and set their profile to private.​

[30/11/2019, 20:23]
Worakls:
hey

[30/11/2019, 20:23]
pesepr]:
helo?

[30/11/2019, 20:23]
Worakls:
added about your butterfly knife
you still own right

[30/11/2019, 20:23]
pesepr]:
yeah
im kind of just wanting cash tbh

[30/11/2019, 20:24]
Worakls:
can you tell me float of it?
i see you dont play cs that often
cheaters?

[30/11/2019, 20:24]
pesepr]:
float?

[30/11/2019, 20:25]
Worakls:
yea

[30/11/2019, 20:25]
pesepr]:
erm not really just bad experience with friends made me less comp
how do i check float lol

[30/11/2019, 20:25]
Worakls:
can you at least remove it from market? so i would see it on my browser haha

[30/11/2019, 20:25]
pesepr]:
ok done

[30/11/2019, 20:26]
Worakls:
as i see its not tradeable yet but you got some other skins if you wanna sell em
let me know

[30/11/2019, 20:27]
pesepr]:
Ok sure will do

[30/11/2019, 20:27]
Worakls:
do you have discord?
so you will have clue who i am and be sure its not a scam or smth haha

[30/11/2019, 20:28]
pesepr]:
JESPERRRRRR#7095
I mean your profile looks pretty legit

[30/11/2019, 20:29]
Worakls:
thanks ma n
added you btw

[30/11/2019, 20:49]
Worakls:
https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=263631316&token=myy0uAEs

[30/11/2019, 20:54]
pesepr]:
You sent Worakls a new trade offerView trade offer
You sent Worakls a new trade offerView trade offer

[30/11/2019, 21:08]
Worakls:
hey man
it shows some problem to me
you got anything?

[30/11/2019, 21:08]
pesepr]:
i havent received
what problem?

[30/11/2019, 21:08]
Worakls:
it got canceled idk why
can you give me your http://paypal.me link
?
so i will resend it

[30/11/2019, 21:09]
pesepr]:
send me your email and i'll send request
??

[30/11/2019, 21:10]
Worakls:
a sec

Saturday, 30 November 2019

[01/12/2019, 10:15]
Worakls:
hey thought i was buying the knife later?
you sold it?

[01/12/2019, 10:16]
pesepr]:
i havent
its still there

[01/12/2019, 10:17]
Worakls:
i just checked your inv and it is not here
in a week i will try to make a payment for a dollar so if it comes to you then other would come tho so i do prefer to stick on your inv
if you dont think im scammer still

[01/12/2019, 10:19]
pesepr]:
sorry for late replies im playing league haha
yeah its fine
did you hear anything back from paypal?

[01/12/2019, 10:20]
Worakls:
i should wait a week or something like this of course paypal cant give straight answers
my friend tried to cash out 5000$ but it got stuck for 180days..
he was buying his dream car and imagine getting hold on 5000$ for almost half year

[01/12/2019, 10:32]
pesepr]:
yeah well it happens i guess

[01/12/2019, 10:34]
Worakls:
so i will try in a week to send you a dollar so if it comes i would buy your knife as well and pay you in one payment otherwise it would took huge fees haha

[01/12/2019, 10:34]
pesepr]:
i mean can we try something like revolut before hand?
there are 0 fees that way
and you can pay into from your bank same as paypal
check it out on the appstore

[01/12/2019, 10:36]
Worakls:
i will check it later
this item isn;t available in your country. lmfao

[01/12/2019, 10:37]
pesepr]:
where do you live?

[01/12/2019, 10:38]
Worakls:
atm im in georgia as i mentioned

not the state tho

[01/12/2019, 10:39]
pesepr]:
says on the website its available

[01/12/2019, 10:40]
Worakls:
i will do vpn

[01/12/2019, 10:40]
pesepr]:
ok

[01/12/2019, 10:40]
Worakls:
so if i get in i will download

Monday, 2 December 2019

[Tuesday 08:07]
Worakls:
hey ive been busy how you doing

[Tuesday 08:08]
pesepr]:
hey yeah good thanks
you?

[Tuesday 08:08]
Worakls:
well broke one arm
i can say im good

[Tuesday 08:08]
pesepr]:
woah how? haha

[Tuesday 08:09]
Worakls:
fell off while training :d

[Tuesday 08:09]
pesepr]:
ahaha classic
i take it your paypal is working again? i see you have some new skins

[Tuesday 08:11]
Worakls:
i do it via btc
but out of it again

[Tuesday 08:11]
pesepr]:
oh i dont do btc anyways haha

[Tuesday 08:14]
Worakls:
why? its much better for me mainly i do both but i think i should switch up on btc

[Tuesday 08:14]
pesepr]:
i have no use for it

[Tuesday 09:15]
Worakls:
almost got scammed
those bastards

[Tuesday 09:16]
pesepr]:
yikes

[Tuesday 09:16]
Worakls:
tried to scam my btc

[Tuesday 09:16]
pesepr]:
what can you do haha

[Tuesday 09:16]
Worakls:
report and post it in my communty

[Tuesday 09:16]
pesepr]:
there are always scumbags trying that

[Tuesday 09:16]
Worakls:
im admin in two big groups
and would report him

[Tuesday 09:17]
pesepr]:
yeah its a shame they dont get any serious punishment from steam

[Tuesday 09:18]
Worakls:
i was about to message you about our deal to tell him that im not a scammer or something but
he told me to make btc first and once he got it i would get knives
i mean he didnt even had any reputation or cashrep

[Tuesday 09:19]
pesepr]:
well for sure you wont do that with btc
once you send it, gone forever
at least with paypal you can file a claim
or something

[Tuesday 09:20]
Worakls:
if person has any cashrep or known more then me im always happy to make deal thats without any problem
i dont want to use paypal anymore its so big company and had a shitty support
or either system

[Tuesday 09:21]
pesepr]:
true

[Tuesday 09:24]
Worakls:
like i got so mad it took a hour about talking for nothing

[Tuesday 09:24]
pesepr]:
tell me about it!

[Tuesday 09:25]
Worakls:
what should i tell about those scumbags

[Tuesday 09:25]
pesepr]:
nothing lol i was agreeing that you're right to be mad about someone wasting your time

[Tuesday 09:27]
Worakls:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/vanga_style/ thats what my community does when i post about scammers )

[Tuesday 09:27]
pesepr]:
that was fast

[Tuesday 09:28]
Worakls:
it was about 1hour post
and gotbanned
when around 2k reported get received
what you think you will go away with or
ban scammer


[Tuesday 09:29]
pesepr]:
i didnt expect it to be so fast though lol

[Tuesday 09:29]
Worakls:
neither me tbh
if you will be up after the knife trade will be completed tho i will ask other admins if you can come in our community and be an moderator
if you wish tho

[Tuesday 09:30]
pesepr]:
i appreciate the offer but im not really interested in trading and what not
i was selling my knife to buy my gf and some friends games for christmas

[Tuesday 09:31]
Worakls:
ouh so you wanna have steam wallet then the paypal?

[Tuesday 09:31]
pesepr]:
no

[Tuesday 09:31]
Worakls:
or what payment we are using /

[Tuesday 09:31]
pesepr]:
i would prefer paypal haha
paypal would help me pay for other things i have irl haha

[Tuesday 09:32]
Worakls:
and here i am with this
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....150/F098A382B9C6EF37044DF40F0FD4B95E62A9BDA1/

why im doing this from november idk
but i listen
..

[Tuesday 09:32]
pesepr]:
its december what do you mean haha
my christmas tree is already up

[Tuesday 09:32]
Worakls:
im listening to this music since november 08


[Tuesday 09:33]
pesepr]:
oh haha

[Tuesday 09:33]
Worakls:
mine not
i have to buy new one..

[Tuesday 09:33]
pesepr]:
me too

[Tuesday 09:33]
Worakls:
and late happy thanksgiving

[Tuesday 09:33]
pesepr]:
just dont have the money for one right now
aw thanks but i dont celebrate thanks giving

[Tuesday 09:34]
Worakls:
oh why?

[Tuesday 09:34]
pesepr]:
thats an american thing

[Tuesday 09:34]
Worakls:
yep
thought you would celebrate
i do it anyways with friends
some beer jokes chips and etc
just in close friend things haha

[Tuesday 09:34]
pesepr]:
yeah i get you
i just dont dedicate it to 1 day of the year :')

[Tuesday 09:36]
Worakls:
gotcha im trying to learn html well at least gonna try

[Tuesday 09:36]
pesepr]:
haha ive just started learning python
:')

[Tuesday 09:36]
Worakls:
its hard from the start i guess xD

[Tuesday 09:37]
pesepr]:
i would say the start is the easiest haha
but i guess it depends what you're trying to do with it

[Tuesday 09:38]
Worakls:
depends tho i wanna learn html for job's and etc hope it will help then some other's languages

[Tuesday 09:40]
pesepr]:
me too
but once you learn 1 language its easier to pick up another

[Tuesday 09:41]
Worakls:
well we'll see what i can do with it hope i can get another job ;D

[Tuesday 09:41]
pesepr]:
you and me both :')

[Tuesday 09:42]
Worakls:
imagine you travel to my country and start living here and cooming to company here i work
xDDD
how we would meet
;Dd

[Tuesday 09:43]
pesepr]:
haha not so far fetched
i met my gf in bulgaria

[Tuesday 09:43]
Worakls:
my gf cheated on me and im alone
can you guys keep me
xDD

[Tuesday 09:44]
pesepr]:
aww im sorry to hear that

[Tuesday 09:45]
Worakls:
well it is what it is i dont think about it anymore xD

[Tuesday 09:45]
pesepr]:
yeah thats good

[Tuesday 09:47]
Worakls:
hope you two will be together forever <3 wish you very best!

[Tuesday 09:48]
pesepr]:
thank you!!
i hope you find someone too and gl with the html

[Tuesday 09:52]
Worakls:
thanks man ^

Thursday, 5 December 2019

[Friday 16:42]
Worakls:
hey man so im only going to use paypal at this time as our payment if a dollar comes to your paypal then other money can be received as well then i would get a knife and send knife money and prevs item money together at once or if it cant be transfred i would return items
sorry but i dont wanna use that app you told me about

[Friday 16:42]
pesepr]:
no worries

[Friday 16:42]
Worakls:
hope you understand

[Friday 16:43]
pesepr]:
so if the thing ur doing now goes through
you'll send me money
if not you'll return my items?

[Friday 16:43]
Worakls:
yeah

[Friday 16:43]
pesepr]:
ok cool

[Friday 16:43]
Worakls:
i mean i will send a 1$ so if its comes
i would calculate knife price and last item price together and send it once i would have knife offer and give you your payment

[Friday 16:43]
pesepr]:
you're sending me $1?

[Friday 16:44]
Worakls:
or just return items
yeah once the trade thing comes

[Friday 16:44]
pesepr]:
how about we try it now? then when knife comes off of cd we'll trade that too?

[Friday 16:47]
Worakls:
would do it but as support mentioned i should wait a week from that probelm
i think i told you it on discord
didn't i?

[Friday 16:47]
pesepr]:
oh ok
i dont remember
haha

[Friday 16:47]
Worakls:
i would do it but i wanna avoid more problems haha

[Friday 16:47]
pesepr]:
yeah i know haha
same

[Friday 16:48]
Worakls:
if dollar doesn't come in would you mind to wait me till i fix it?
hope it comes and will be fixed in days !

[Friday 16:49]
pesepr]:
um i would feel more comfortable if i got the items back and then we tried again when we're sure the problem is fixed
would that be ok?

[Friday 16:52]
Worakls:
it would take another week to get tradeable

[Friday 16:53]
pesepr]:
i know but i would just feel more comfortable that way

[Friday 16:53]
Worakls:
yeah but it would took month in total to resell make a profit from there ..

[Friday 16:54]
pesepr]:
well
look i obviously want to sell the skins
i just dont want them to vanish and i have nothing to show for them

[Friday 16:56]
Worakls:
well lets wait and i think we can do something about it

[Friday 16:56]
pesepr]:
what do you mean?

[Friday 16:59]
Worakls:
i mean till the those days expire

[Friday 17:00]
pesepr]:
ok

[Friday 17:11]
Worakls:
so i was thinkin that i would call ya make a $ payment at first so if you gonna get it you gonna make a knife offer once i would see it i would make a payment 430 GBP and once you would get it i would accept your offer thats would be fair for both of us so if you dont get any payment as 430GBP you would decline the offer and i would retunr the items this is best way for me yet

[Friday 17:12]
pesepr]:
or we can do the 235 first
then i trade knife and what not?

[Friday 17:13]
Worakls:
so i was thinkin that i would call ya make a $ payment at first so if you gonna get it you gonna make a knife offer once i would see it i would make a payment 430 GBP and once you would get it i would accept your offer thats would be fair for both of us so if you dont get any payment as 430GBP you would decline the offer and i would retunr the items this is best way for me yet
i think it would be fair

[Friday 17:14]
pesepr]:
lets do the 235 first
then we do knife
ok?

[Friday 17:18]
Worakls:
i mean reason i dont do half of half payments are fees no matter if you or me get less money from the transaction its just fee if i pay 235GBP and it tkaes 10GBP is 13$ for 13$ i can eat or just get new item

[Friday 17:18]
pesepr]:
you can send me usd if you want?

[Friday 17:19]
Worakls:
i mean it same i just converted
to usd
to understand
get it?

[Friday 17:19]
pesepr]:
i get it
how about i'll send you back whatever fees you have to pay?
fair?
that way you dont lose out on anything
i lose money
i think thats fair no?

[Friday 17:20]
Worakls:
well i dont wanna be seem rude or somthing but i do have my own rules how to do any transactions and onyl way i see it like ths

[Friday 17:21]
pesepr]:
i dont want to seem rude either
but im not willing to put my knife to trade or anything until i get the money from the first skins

[Friday 17:22]
Worakls:
thats why i told you that i would not accept any offer until you dont get full payout

[Friday 17:23]
pesepr]:
ok
so we call
you send money, i put trade

[Friday 17:23]
Worakls:
so it would be like this

[Friday 17:24]
pesepr]:
i will not confirm trade on steam until i get payment?

[Friday 17:25]
Worakls:
i will make a dollar payment if you get it i would make ready my payment for 430GBP once you show you did an offer for the rest offer (for theknife) i would send a payment and once money will appear on your account i would accept the offer so if it doesn't come on
just cancel and would return items
like this
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....044/6D0411DBA7E8F47F837B9FD998A31DC227524279/

[Friday 17:26]
pesepr]:
ok
so it'll just be awaiting moible confirmation
yes we'll do it like that

[Friday 17:27]
Worakls:
im in game just showed test screen you have to make offer via mobile
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....712/809B0F4BA5913C1B7C31BDB96E195F09D520820F/

no matter its confirmed or not you cna delete the offer
sorry im ingame

[Friday 17:33]
Worakls:
so yeah you will made an offer like this i would send a payment and once money will appear on your account i would accept the offer so if it doesn't come onjust cancel and would return items
get it?

[Friday 17:37]
pesepr]:
would you be open to the trade being awaiting confirmation
then when the money comes in
i confirm
rather than leaving it open ended
i know i dont have a reputation like you

[Friday 17:40]
Worakls:
rather to see it would be confirmed then waiting for mobile confirm thats why i have reputation all over those years over 6000 people trusted me and no one got any problem

[Friday 17:42]
pesepr]:
its the only way i'll be comfortable with it
if you're not willing then we'll just do the 235
or you can give the skins back
its up to you

[Friday 17:45]
Worakls:
well youre just saying i scammed you and im going to scam a knife? i would even log out of my account i only need to see knife offer is made and money is sent to you

[Friday 17:45]
pesepr]:
im not saying that at all
trust goes both ways
i've trusted you this past week
and you shouldnt take me being cautious as calling you a scammer
as of right now i am £235 down
im not willing to go 400 down because of people i dont know leaving comments on your profile
can you see it from my pov?
im not calling you a scammer
please dont think that

[Friday 17:48]
Worakls:
im carryng my reputation yeah i see it from your side tho but you should understand me too i only wanna see you made an offer and i sent money you get your money and then i accept the offer thats it ..
nothing to worry about

[Friday 17:48]
pesepr]:
i will make the offer on discord

[Friday 17:48]
Worakls:
if you aint doing this means you aint trust me and thats a kinda sad thingf for me

[Friday 17:48]
pesepr]:
but i will not confirm in the app until i have money
i have trusted you
im asking you to trust me now

[Friday 17:49]
Worakls:
if you gonna confirm i make a payment and once you get i accept offer easy for us nothing to worry about of .. im saying you have to show you made offer while im only on paypal page and then you get your money once you get it im going to accept your offer otherwise just cancel
like i showed
thats my last offer

[Friday 17:50]
pesepr]:
i am only willing to have it pending in steam app until i have money
i cant leave it open
i hope you can understand

[Friday 17:54]
Worakls:
i do but thats my way im doing it i dont do half or 4x half payments so you know my offer and theres 2days left until you gonna have trade on it think about it im not going to make any other to my rules
rules are rules friendships are friendships sadly

[Friday 17:55]
pesepr]:
i'll sleep on it

[Friday 17:56]
Worakls:
so guess there's no deal?

[Friday 17:57]
pesepr]:
im willing to do the 235 as of right now

[Friday 17:57]
Worakls:
by that you're saying im a scammer nothing more
gj

[Friday 17:57]
pesepr]:
why are you trying to guilt trip me?

[Friday 17:58]
Worakls:
guilt?
thats how it sounds to me
rn
nothing more m8
like
if you trusted me on this you cant trust on other half?

[Friday 17:59]
pesepr]:
ok put yourself in my shoes

[Friday 17:59]
Worakls:
better to say true thing then lie ) if you dont trust me and saying you dont even wanna make offer while im not even on steam
and not going to accept your offfer unti l youre not getting money

[Friday 17:59]
pesepr]:
i put my trust in you
and gave you my skins

[Friday 18:00]
Worakls:
my shous are long enough 53size so i can put ourselves there
if youre trusting me trust me long enough if not just say you dont trust me anymore
and thats it

[Friday 18:03]
pesepr]:
i've put my trust in you already.
you have my skins dont you?

[Friday 18:03]
Worakls:
and you do think im scamming you for this items?
if you make offer for the knife you think i would scam?
answer that?
you really do think that?
jusy say yes or not

[Friday 18:03]
pesepr]:
no im just making sure you dont scam me for my knife
there is a huge difference
why is it ok for you to get skins first then pay
but wrong for me to get money then give skin
you already have my skins

[Friday 18:04]
Worakls:
if you would have cashrep i wouled go first
for realy

[Friday 18:04]
pesepr]:
i dont doubt it
but like i say

[Friday 18:04]
Worakls:
but you're telling me this that i would scam you for the knife?
ok then

[Friday 18:05]
pesepr]:
stop this
you're jumping to conclusions that arent there
why is it so f✿✿✿✿✿✿ wrong for me to be cautious?
why am i not allowed to have peace of mind?
i dont want to argue with you
im not calling you a scammer

[Friday 18:06]
Worakls:
its not wrong im not saying its not if you trusted me on this you would trust me on other half as well even though im logging out of steam and just seeing you made offer on yourscreen then im making payment thats what im saying if you dont trust me on this im saying to let me know nothing m o r e
thats my final offer understand it or not i cant change it if you would come in discord as i said i would log out of my account and once i see it on your screen you did offer im giving you full payment and then accepting your offer its my last offer about this now think or do whatever you wanna

[Friday 18:11]
pesepr]:
ok then its no deal
its £235 or i get my skins back, ok?

[Friday 18:15]
Worakls:
so you choose to dont trust me on other half? will see if it would be 235 or skins

[Friday 18:15]
pesepr]:
i cant trust you on the other half if you're not willing to compromise

[Friday 18:25]
Worakls:
nice man gj

Saturday, 7 December 2019

[13:57]
Worakls:
hey yleo
have you changed your mind about selling it to me?

[14:03]
pesepr]:
hey only if its done the way i suggested

[15:07]
pesepr]:
so do you wanna try the paypal or?

[15:20]
Worakls:
i still wanna buy out your your knife with same way im logging out of steam and just seeing you made offer on yourscreen then im making payment
xD
CS:GO/Dota 2 World Wide - Buy/Sell/Trade
Rules:

1. Spam = 2 week ban
2. Scamming = perma ban (report scam posts, so we can see it - we are not online 24/7, always show proof)
3. Hate speech and racism = kick, if you continue = perma ban
4....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TradingOnSteam/

ask in this group if needed

[15:27]
pesepr]:
the only way im doing it is if the steam trade is pending in steam app
unfortuently no amount of people are gonna change my mind on that
im sorry

[15:28]
Worakls:
its same on sending offerand declining it
cant you just click decline the offer?

[15:28]
pesepr]:
if its the same
why are you against it

[15:28]
Worakls:
because its kinda security of me thats offer has been made and thats it
try that on your case

[15:29]
pesepr]:
Its security for me aswell

[15:30]
Worakls:
my offer is same etiher we do it or closing the deal

[15:30]
pesepr]:
im only doing it if its pending on my app
so are we doing 235 or am i getting my skins back?

[15:31]
Worakls:
and what you cant cancel the offer
while its confirmed\
or what

[15:31]
pesepr]:
you can accept it from steam app

[15:31]
Worakls:
i said i wil log out of
the steam

[15:31]
pesepr]:
or another browser

[15:31]
Worakls:
with screenshare
and deauthorize
devices
.

[15:32]
pesepr]:
its too open for my liking

[15:32]
Worakls:
if you would see im online just cancel it

[15:32]
pesepr]:
you can hide offline so easily

[15:32]
Worakls:
so you're saying that i would hide and scam you?
ok then\no need to continue

[15:32]
pesepr]:
im not changing my mind on this

[15:32]
Worakls:
im going to reutnr items
yle xar
xoda

[15:33]
pesepr]:
ok then
you're putting words in my mouth lol
you say you want it your way for security
i say i want mine for security
im not saying you are a scammer
but im stopping myself from potentially getting scammed

Hope this helps