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  1. Dyla4nn

    Dyla4nn New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198203410812

    Victim profile: 76561198021597755

    What happened? Description:
    Scammed me out of 25 keys, 1 strange festive FAN and a nr 40 crate with a fake middleman

    the fake middleman's profile is this
    | steamname: Blurr
    | steam3ID: [U:1:1086424941]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:543212470
    | steamID64: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199046690669
    | customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/OfficialBlurr
    | steamrep: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561199046690669


    They are operating using this https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamMods subreddit to fake a trusted place for middlemen.


    Was very stupid of me to fall for this scam as it is fairly obvious it wasn't legit.​

    Provide Evidence:
    I cannot upload screenshot nr 2 as it is too large in date. But it was a screenshot of the 'middleman' his profile. Wich u can also go to by clicking on his profile through https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamMods.​

    [Monday 16:20]
    Zjang:
    Hi

    [Monday 18:01]
    Syke:
    hello
    added you from bazaar

    [Monday 18:03]
    Zjang:
    Great, u want to buy keys?

    [Monday 18:04]
    Syke:
    yup

    [Monday 18:06]
    Zjang:
    u want al 25 of them?

    [Monday 18:07]
    Syke:
    yes
    how much you want for each?

    [Monday 18:07]
    Zjang:
    2usd each as listed but will do 1.9

    [Monday 18:08]
    Syke:
    yea i can do 1.9 each

    [Monday 18:10]
    Zjang:
    sure, you willing to go first?

    [Monday 18:11]
    Syke:
    i can go first if you have cash rep
    and btw you still have Trade will be held for: 2 days- Zjang has not been using the Mobile Authenticator for 7 days

    [Monday 18:12]
    Zjang:
    oh ye f✿✿✿ cusz i have new phone
    i used to trade a lot on tf2 all cash

    [Monday 18:12]
    Syke:
    i can wait

    [Monday 18:12]
    Zjang:
    some +rep on my profile
    alright!

    [Monday 18:13]
    Syke:
    aight update me once tradehold ended

    [Monday 18:13]
    Zjang:
    sure thing

    [Monday 18:13]
    Syke:
    thanks

    Tuesday, December 27, 2022

    [Wednesday 05:35]
    Syke:
    hey

    [Wednesday 10:20]
    Syke:
    you there man?
    i think your tradehold is gone

    [Wednesday 18:25]
    Syke:
    Yo

    Wednesday, December 28, 2022

    [Yesterday, 15:42]
    Syke:
    hey man

    [Yesterday, 23:35]
    Zjang:
    yo! sorry was out
    can do the trade if u want

    Thursday, December 29, 2022

    [02:49]
    Syke:
    No problem
    can do now?

    [15:12]
    Zjang:
    im here now if u want

    [15:13]
    Syke:
    Yea
    You also sell all your strange weapons?

    [15:18]
    Zjang:
    hmmm not yet
    but i might in the future
    you can send over 47.5USD as gift to @DylanGeldhof

    [15:23]
    Syke:
    wait
    63.5$ with Strange Festive Force-A-Nature?

    [15:27]
    Zjang:
    sure

    [15:29]
    Syke:
    Ok
    are you going to send the offer first? or how we gonna deal?

    [15:30]
    Zjang:
    i would be more comfortable if you would go first. I used to do a decent amount of real money trading on tf2

    [15:32]
    Syke:
    uhmm i want fair trade tbhmaybe we can get a middleman for safe n fair deal? ill just pay the fees

    [15:33]
    Zjang:
    Sure thing

    [15:34]
    Syke:
    cool
    we can get one here from reddit btw https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamMods/
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....535/E3791998DBC297B05CA5EA8EEFC6DAFABBC6D5BF/

    2.) (ACTIVE)
    Steam Community :: Blurr
    I DONT ACCEPT SCAMMERS / FRAUD! CSGO/TF2/DOTA2/RUST MIDDLEMAN
    https://steamcommunity.com/id/OfficialBlurr

    i think 2nd guy is current online
    we can add him

    [15:36]
    Zjang:
    seems good!

    [15:36]
    Syke:
    Ok i added him
    better add him too

    [15:37]
    Zjang:
    done

    [15:38]
    Syke:
    ok lets wait
    btw man the Salvaged Mann Co. Supply Crate #40?
    selling it too?
    38$ each?

    [15:39]
    Zjang:
    not yet, but i might soon tho

    [15:39]
    Syke:
    oh ok, because i want to spent more than 100$ thats why im asking xD
    maybe u can sell 1 crate?
    i can do 105$ for all

    [15:40]
    Zjang:
    ohh i see

    [15:40]
    Syke:
    btw the mm accepted me
    u ok with that?

    [15:41]
    Zjang:
    sure ill sell 1 crate

    [15:41]
    Syke:
    Ok thanks brother

    [15:56]
    Syke:
    bro i have some problem
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....866/1F37EA8EDAF258BA89078AC5560B40F12FB36E4E/

    i cant send lower than 200 bucks
    im calling the paypal
    its says i already limit my account thats why i cant send lower than 200$

    [15:58]
    Zjang:
    uhmm

    [15:59]
    Syke:
    maybe we can just deal for your other strange weapons and the 1 salvaged crate at once
    if thats ok?

    [15:59]
    Zjang:
    preferably not
    thats a bit too much money at once f

    [15:59]
    Syke:
    yea but i cant send lower than 200$
    i can do 230$ for all

    [16:00]
    Zjang:
    nah i prefer to cancel it then

    [16:00]
    Syke:
    hmmm
    ok what about u add the 1 crate?
    i send the 200$ to you?
    thats ok?

    [16:01]
    Zjang:
    Why would you want to overpay that much?

    [16:02]
    Syke:
    im buying the other crate, just return the extra to my paypal
    because i cant send lower than 200$

    [16:02]
    Zjang:
    if you want you can send 200 and i will return the amount u overpaid
    but i dont really want to sell more rn

    [16:03]
    Syke:
    Ok but can the mm hold the other crate just for guarantee? i will tell him to return it back to you after u return the extra amount

    [16:04]
    Zjang:
    he can send u the trade once i gave u back what u overpaid?
    that should be what the middleman is for no?

    [16:05]
    Syke:
    yea but im sending 200$ and he only got worth 105$ items
    so i want atleast add 1 crate

    [16:05]
    Zjang:
    no i am not doing that

    [16:05]
    Syke:
    hmm how about the strange bat?

    [16:06]
    Zjang:
    No this is all i want to sell rn nothing more

    [16:06]
    Syke:
    u will not sell it
    mm with just handle it
    it will be return back to you

    [16:06]
    Zjang:
    no i am not doing that

    [16:06]
    Syke:
    its just for collateral
    so u can return the 95$ to me

    [16:07]
    Zjang:
    No, not doing it

    [16:07]
    Syke:
    Ok
    lets just cancel it then

    [16:08]
    Zjang:
    okay

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  2. Dyla4nn

    Dyla4nn New User

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  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    No evidence there to show any formal agreement or anything wrong happening.
    Also reporting wrong user - you always report 1St user involved however it wouldn't still be valid without a formal agreement/more evidence to show something was in fact fraud happening here.
    Formal agreement must include exact items/amount/method of payment and information for method of payment transfer..all of this is noted in the links below and that were provided prior to submission.
    Please do not submit reports against others without proper evidence also make sure you report the FIRST user you were involved with not another that came into the picture.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-submission-fundamentals.169802/
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
    Nothing provided suggests/shows this user is or was guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Declined
  4. Dyla4nn

    Dyla4nn New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:30666013
    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198203410812

    Victim profile: 76561198021597755

    What happened? Description:
    Scammed me out of 25 keys, a nr 40 crate and a strange festive FAN. Added me from Bazaar.

    We negotiated a set of terms and agreed upon a price of 105USD. He then wanted to use a middleman from
    Hidden Content:
    **Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by members of (usergroups: Administrative, Moderating).**
    as a middelman. After i gave him the items, he wanted more but i declined. Soon after both blocked me on steam. Some of the conversation happened in a groupchat between those 2 but they kicked me from it and i am now unable to read it and screenshot it.​

    Provide Evidence:
    All evidence should be available in the screenshots i have provided. If i have missed something please do not instantly decline, i can add further info if needed. Every screenshot is full screen.​

    [Monday 16:20]
    Zjang:
    Hi

    [Monday 18:01]
    Syke:
    hello
    added you from bazaar

    [Monday 18:03]
    Zjang:
    Great, u want to buy keys?

    [Monday 18:04]
    Syke:
    yup

    [Monday 18:06]
    Zjang:
    u want al 25 of them?

    [Monday 18:07]
    Syke:
    yes
    how much you want for each?

    [Monday 18:07]
    Zjang:
    2usd each as listed but will do 1.9

    [Monday 18:08]
    Syke:
    yea i can do 1.9 each

    [Monday 18:10]
    Zjang:
    sure, you willing to go first?

    [Monday 18:11]
    Syke:
    i can go first if you have cash rep
    and btw you still have Trade will be held for: 2 days- Zjang has not been using the Mobile Authenticator for 7 days

    [Monday 18:12]
    Zjang:
    oh ye f✿✿✿ cusz i have new phone
    i used to trade a lot on tf2 all cash

    [Monday 18:12]
    Syke:
    i can wait

    [Monday 18:12]
    Zjang:
    some +rep on my profile
    alright!

    [Monday 18:13]
    Syke:
    aight update me once tradehold ended

    [Monday 18:13]
    Zjang:
    sure thing

    [Monday 18:13]
    Syke:
    thanks

    Tuesday, December 27, 2022

    [Wednesday 05:35]
    Syke:
    hey

    [Wednesday 10:20]
    Syke:
    you there man?
    i think your tradehold is gone

    [Wednesday 18:25]
    Syke:
    Yo

    Wednesday, December 28, 2022

    [Yesterday, 15:42]
    Syke:
    hey man

    [Yesterday, 23:35]
    Zjang:
    yo! sorry was out
    can do the trade if u want

    Thursday, December 29, 2022

    [02:49]
    Syke:
    No problem
    can do now?

    [15:12]
    Zjang:
    im here now if u want

    [15:13]
    Syke:
    Yea
    You also sell all your strange weapons?

    [15:18]
    Zjang:
    hmmm not yet
    but i might in the future
    you can send over 47.5USD as gift to @DylanGeldhof

    [15:23]
    Syke:
    wait
    63.5$ with Strange Festive Force-A-Nature?

    [15:27]
    Zjang:
    sure

    [15:29]
    Syke:
    Ok
    are you going to send the offer first? or how we gonna deal?

    [15:30]
    Zjang:
    i would be more comfortable if you would go first. I used to do a decent amount of real money trading on tf2

    [15:32]
    Syke:
    uhmm i want fair trade tbhmaybe we can get a middleman for safe n fair deal? ill just pay the fees

    [15:33]
    Zjang:
    Sure thing

    [15:34]
    Syke:
    cool
    we can get one here from reddit btw https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamMods/
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....535/E3791998DBC297B05CA5EA8EEFC6DAFABBC6D5BF/

    2.) (ACTIVE)
    Steam Community :: Blurr
    I DONT ACCEPT SCAMMERS / FRAUD! CSGO/TF2/DOTA2/RUST MIDDLEMAN
    Hidden Content:
    **Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by members of (usergroups: Administrative, Moderating).**
    i think 2nd guy is current online
    we can add him

    [15:36]
    Zjang:
    seems good!

    [15:36]
    Syke:
    Ok i added him
    better add him too

    [15:37]
    Zjang:
    done

    [15:38]
    Syke:
    ok lets wait
    btw man the Salvaged Mann Co. Supply Crate #40?
    selling it too?
    38$ each?

    [15:39]
    Zjang:
    not yet, but i might soon tho

    [15:39]
    Syke:
    oh ok, because i want to spent more than 100$ thats why im asking xD
    maybe u can sell 1 crate?
    i can do 105$ for all

    [15:40]
    Zjang:
    ohh i see

    [15:40]
    Syke:
    btw the mm accepted me
    u ok with that?

    [15:41]
    Zjang:
    sure ill sell 1 crate

    [15:41]
    Syke:
    Ok thanks brother

    [15:56]
    Syke:
    bro i have some problem
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....866/1F37EA8EDAF258BA89078AC5560B40F12FB36E4E/

    i cant send lower than 200 bucks
    im calling the paypal
    its says i already limit my account thats why i cant send lower than 200$

    [15:58]
    Zjang:
    uhmm

    [15:59]
    Syke:
    maybe we can just deal for your other strange weapons and the 1 salvaged crate at once
    if thats ok?

    [15:59]
    Zjang:
    preferably not
    thats a bit too much money at once f

    [15:59]
    Syke:
    yea but i cant send lower than 200$
    i can do 230$ for all

    [16:00]
    Zjang:
    nah i prefer to cancel it then

    [16:00]
    Syke:
    hmmm
    ok what about u add the 1 crate?
    i send the 200$ to you?
    thats ok?

    [16:01]
    Zjang:
    Why would you want to overpay that much?

    [16:02]
    Syke:
    im buying the other crate, just return the extra to my paypal
    because i cant send lower than 200$

    [16:02]
    Zjang:
    if you want you can send 200 and i will return the amount u overpaid
    but i dont really want to sell more rn

    [16:03]
    Syke:
    Ok but can the mm hold the other crate just for guarantee? i will tell him to return it back to you after u return the extra amount

    [16:04]
    Zjang:
    he can send u the trade once i gave u back what u overpaid?
    that should be what the middleman is for no?

    [16:05]
    Syke:
    yea but im sending 200$ and he only got worth 105$ items
    so i want atleast add 1 crate

    [16:05]
    Zjang:
    no i am not doing that

    [16:05]
    Syke:
    hmm how about the strange bat?

    [16:06]
    Zjang:
    No this is all i want to sell rn nothing more

    [16:06]
    Syke:
    u will not sell it
    mm with just handle it
    it will be return back to you

    [16:06]
    Zjang:
    no i am not doing that

    [16:06]
    Syke:
    its just for collateral
    so u can return the 95$ to me

    [16:07]
    Zjang:
    No, not doing it

    [16:07]
    Syke:
    Ok
    lets just cancel it then

    [16:08]
    Zjang:
    okay

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    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 31, 2022
  5. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    What was the payment method? You are not detailing the situation very well.
  6. Dyla4nn

    Dyla4nn New User

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    Hi, as seen in screenshot 7 it was via Paypal. I will also include a screenshot of the original trade offer I posted on Bazaar.

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Yes it does say paypal... Where is the rest of the information - need to see the chat logs that clearly show the account information to send the funds to..I do not see this or I wouldn't have asked.
  8. Dyla4nn

    Dyla4nn New User

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    These are all the chatlogs I if I am not mistaken can access. In the groupchat we had with the 'middelman' there I gave the details where to send to, but I cannot access these chatlogs I think as they have kicked me out. The details that are shown in screenshot 7 are linked to my Paypal.
  9. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Sorry but without that which is part of the formal agreement we can't review this - I have no way to know without verifying the account and payment received or not that the event happened as you said.
    I'll give you 24hours to provide what is required or you can just state no you do not have them and will review as is.
  10. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Declined for lack of follow up and more importantly evidence as required - This decision is final do not submit report again. This one will be merged with previous.
    You can report to Valve instead.
    In the future you must submit proper/complete evidence up front and/or upon request as required such as the missing formal agreement completely noted so we can verify.
    This user was not found guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Other user info redacted for privacy.
    Declined.
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