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  1. Slidersawesome

    Slidersawesome New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561198970256610

    Victim profile: 76561198045525082

    What happened? Description:
    Context: I met this player weeks ago during a premier match. We grouped up and played some games together. They made offers for my AK skin a few times the following two weeks. Today, I finally agreed to an offer without realizing they planned to screw me over....

    Total value stolen/scammed was approximately $250. A three-stage transaction was created and agreed upon to minimize risk of both parties. Plan is outlined below for context.
    **Note: Only steps 1 and 2 may be relevant, as they failed to complete step 2.**
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    Outline of plan:
    1. I would send a Steam Trade offer including MY "Field-Tested AK-47 | Case Hardened" (valued at $650) and THEIR "Field-Tested Stattrak AWP | Asiimov"(valued at $400).

    2. They would send me $250 USD via Venmo. (This was not completed

    3. After the trade-ban has ended 7 days from now, they would send me $200 via Venmo.

    4. I would send a Steam Trade offer including *ONLY* THEIR "Field-Tested Stattrak AWP | Asiimov"(valued at $400).

    5. They would send me $200 via Venmo.
    ----------
    If completed, this would result in an exchange whereby they purchase my AK-47 | Case Hardened for $650 USD with no more than 250$ in risk to either party at any point.​

    Provide Evidence:
    View attachment 812961
    View attachment 812960 View attachment 812959 View attachment 812958 View attachment 812963 The rest of the chat logs will be posted as a reply as there are 14 more screenshots of the chat.

    The above includes: full
    agreement of the deal and details; completed steam trade as outlined; non-completed venmo payment as previously outlined.

    Thursday, October 26, 2023

    [10/26/2023, 1:26 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Oh gotcha gotcha yah. I mean it’s pretty chill overall just Venmo. I could send you their docs that ensure it incase fwiw
    But it makes sense
    What $50 in skins would you want? I can do that $500 and $50 in skins

    [10/26/2023, 1:31 AM]
    Excel:
    I'll look after this game

    [10/26/2023, 1:42 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Foaho
    Fosho

    [10/26/2023, 1:45 AM]
    Excel:
    Have you ever used Zelle

    [10/26/2023, 1:46 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah I can Zelle you too for sure

    [10/26/2023, 1:46 AM]
    Excel:
    Zelle would be better for me. It is a true, instant peer-to-peer transfer.
    AFAIK

    [10/26/2023, 1:47 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah I can do Zelle then I’m down.
    It is. It’s bank to bank, no way to charge back or anything

    [10/26/2023, 2:12 AM]
    Excel:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....953/1FD77A755DF5A5D2C631AC09E4ED1FDE6D62065E/

    [10/26/2023, 2:13 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    That works with me. I can do that
    So $500 and those right?

    [10/26/2023, 2:14 AM]
    Excel:
    Probs. But I want to think about it. I'll commit 100% to yes/no by the weekend.
    Like friday nighta t the latest

    [10/26/2023, 2:14 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Dang ok, understandable. I’d love to get it off you earlier if possible but if you really need to think go for it
    What’s the hold up on?

    [10/26/2023, 2:15 AM]
    Excel:
    Just because It'd be hard to find another
    If I regret it later lmao
    Old holos x4 ain't common.

    [10/26/2023, 2:17 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah gotchu. Id do $550 and those skins if you’d be willing to do it now. Just as an added incentive to move it

    [10/26/2023, 12:05 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Also, anything else of value you’d be looking to sell? I kinda wanna group buy if I can —

    [10/26/2023, 12:05 PM]
    Excel:
    Not atm. Just shipped a few of the high end stuff
    Sorry mate

    [10/26/2023, 3:13 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    No worries
    so about the ak

    Monday, October 30, 2023

    [10/30/2023, 2:24 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    yo you wanna sell o nah?

    [10/30/2023, 2:25 AM]
    Excel:
    I think I'm gonna hang on to it bro. I appreciate the offer and the patience

    [10/30/2023, 2:25 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    fs

    Sunday, November 5, 2023

    [Yesterday, 6:00 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    yo. I'd offer you $650 cash
    Just incase
    if that's a moving point

    [Yesterday, 6:00 PM]
    Excel:
    hm

    [Yesterday, 6:01 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    And ill toss in this AK I won't use anymore
    I just bought this knife and I need to trick my loadout out

    [Yesterday, 6:01 PM]
    Excel:
    I see
    Zelle transfer right?

    [Yesterday, 6:02 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yessir. Would be zelle.

    [Yesterday, 6:03 PM]
    Excel:
    Okay, strong offer. I will play 1 game and answer for you after.

    [Yesterday, 6:04 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Sounds good lmk. Think on it

    [Yesterday, 6:16 PM]
    Excel:
    I think I will pass
    BUT
    I found this one for you, if you wanna see
    {LINK REMOVED}
    Same pattern, just no stickers
    but only 521$
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....989/0B089AE07BC0B67FC0A194E97AA4D303720B77DA/

    [Yesterday, 6:29 PM]
    Excel:
    Let me ask you, is it the pattern+float you like? The stickers? If it's the stickers, why these specifically?

    [Yesterday, 6:29 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    It’s the combination. All of it.
    I won’t be able to get something exactly there
    And I’m willing to overpay it

    [Yesterday, 6:30 PM]
    Excel:
    If I agree to the deal, would you accept these two terms:
    You send 75% payment first--I've been scammed before, sorry non-negotiable.
    After that I'll sent it over, you send the rest after received.
    Second, I want you to reach out to me if you decide to sell it later on. First-right-of-refusal basically.

    [Yesterday, 6:50 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ok so first off what does that last thing mean?

    [Yesterday, 6:50 PM]
    Excel:
    Just that

    [Yesterday, 6:50 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    I can reach out, but if you don’t want me to sell it you’ll buy it?

    [Yesterday, 6:51 PM]
    Excel:
    You either keep it or sell it back to me
    Unless I don't want it
    then you can sell whereever

    [Yesterday, 6:51 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    What if he’s buying fro like $5k
    You’d have to match right
    But I’d give you the option

    [Yesterday, 6:51 PM]
    Excel:
    Yes

    [Yesterday, 6:51 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    That’s fair

    [Yesterday, 6:51 PM]
    Excel:
    Correct

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ok and regarding the 75%. You got rep or some sort of way I can go about trusting you on this?

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Excel:
    Yes

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    I understand not wanting to go first, but I can’t get screwed here either of.

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Excel:
    I will show after the game

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ofc*
    Thanks

    [Yesterday, 6:52 PM]
    Excel:
    no worreis

    [Yesterday, 6:56 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Do you have Venmo also? I only ask because it’ll let me pay via credit card.
    And I’d prefer that if it’s all the same to you —

    [Yesterday, 6:56 PM]
    Excel:
    hmm

    [Yesterday, 6:57 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Can do friends and family Venmo etc..
    But if it’s like a deal breaker I’ll do Zelle ofc.

    [Yesterday, 6:57 PM]
    Excel:
    I'll just have to check the policies about chargebacks first

    [Yesterday, 6:58 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yes please do. Venmo is the same as Zelle essentially on the guarantees
    But do your due diligence obviously

    [Yesterday, 7:13 PM]
    Excel:
    So you want to use a credit card?

    [Yesterday, 7:14 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    id prefer to if I could yeah.

    [Yesterday, 7:14 PM]
    Excel:
    What if buy Steam gift cards somewhere?
    Should be tax+fee free

    [Yesterday, 7:14 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Then I would just rather buy on the steam market at that point.
    Just due to safety

    [Yesterday, 7:15 PM]
    Excel:
    I see

    [Yesterday, 7:15 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    You feel me right?
    Like if I am gonna use steam cards already might as well just buy on steam
    but I could def venmo you. Check the rules on it
    it's 100% no chargeback
    nothing

    [Yesterday, 7:16 PM]
    Excel:
    the 3% isn't an issue for you?

    [Yesterday, 7:16 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    But I mean also do you have rep? 75% is a lot up front still --
    I have a venmo credit card
    It's 0% for me

    [Yesterday, 7:16 PM]
    Excel:
    Yes, I do. Not nessecarily counter strike tho
    I have rep from selling magic/yugioh/pokemon cards
    I ran a store to pay my college tuition lol

    [Yesterday, 7:17 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    oh hm
    Gotcha

    [Yesterday, 7:18 PM]
    Excel:
    Also ebay and I sold skins yesterday to someone
    I can show that if yw

    [Yesterday, 7:18 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah please
    that would be great

    [Yesterday, 7:19 PM]
    Excel:
    the guy I sold them to did scam some too lol
    f✿✿✿✿✿✿ bastard

    [Yesterday, 7:19 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    uh
    what?

    [Yesterday, 7:19 PM]
    Excel:
    it's complicated I'll explain
    we can hop into discord if you want

    Israel Is T-Sided has opened voice chat. Waiting on Excel to join.

    Excel has ended voice chat.

    [Yesterday, 7:23 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ok yo im back

    Israel Is T-Sided has opened voice chat. Waiting on Excel to join.

    Israel Is T-Sided has ended voice chat.

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    ill wait till you're done with game and we'll figure it out

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Excel:
    Okay
    Wanna do discord

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yah

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Excel:
    And I'll screenshare my stuff

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    def

    [Yesterday, 7:24 PM]
    Excel:
    Username - Slidersawesome

    [Yesterday, 7:59 PM]
    Excel:
    This you?
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....280/B18F65C0C18C304FE0280524B531668508642CF1/

    [Yesterday, 8:01 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yessir

    [Yesterday, 8:03 PM]
    Excel:
    Ready whenever

    [Yesterday, 8:21 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    I’m out for dinner rn. Gimme a little and I’ll be back

    [Yesterday, 8:21 PM]
    Excel:
    nbd
    nw

    [Yesterday, 10:51 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    yo
    I am back

    [Yesterday, 10:51 PM]
    Excel:
    welcome back

    [Yesterday, 10:58 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    So what
    should we do

    [Yesterday, 10:58 PM]
    Excel:
    I'm gonna check the sticker prices on those sites for you rq
    Because there can be additional fees or restrictions

    [Yesterday, 11:01 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ok for sure

    [Yesterday, 11:13 PM]
    Excel:
    Okay so two of the stickers are good priced
    other two you can get from steam market at 48.56
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....206/F6D8F6DAEFC27EECA96DF8AACA67191ACFAE4D70/

    All of these purchases would be from a business directly, giving you protection, buyer guarentees, etc

    [Yesterday, 11:31 PM]
    Excel:
    All that being said, I will do the same deal we talked about before.

    [Yesterday, 11:59 PM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Would you be willing to compromise and do something more reasonable than 75%?

    Monday, November 6, 2023

    [12:00 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    That's like too much on the line still ya know

    [12:16 AM]
    Excel:
    I getcha
    If you want
    We can do as $xxx.xx up sent first by you, then do a steam trade for the rest with your other skins
    But that might just be the same from your perspective, actually
    What if:
    (1) you send $250 up-front w/ Zelle.
    (2) I send a trade of my AK for your AWP | Asiimov
    (3) in a week, I send back your asiimov
    (4) you send the remaining 400

    [12:28 AM]
    Excel:
    Technically, I take on more risk this way, but it is delayed. You take on 250$ risk today (zelle first), I take on 400$ risk in 7 days (awp first, zelle second). Biggest downsite is your stattrak will reset.

    [12:41 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    I mean it makes sense but why the reason for the downgrade

    [12:42 AM]
    Excel:
    Because it reduces my risk
    steam trade is simultaneous
    so I have 0$ risk tonight
    and you have 250 risk tonigh
    t
    I also am assuming that you'd rather keep your AWP and not sell.

    [12:46 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah 100% would rather keep my awp

    [12:47 AM]
    Excel:
    Basically, I am banking on that fact to get the full 650

    [12:52 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Here's what id much rather do if you'd be willing. I give you AWP for AK now. Then I send you $250 after. This way you take only $250 risk. Then I will take the awp back off you

    [12:53 AM]
    Excel:
    Hmm
    Okay, but you send 250 tonight?

    [12:54 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yes.
    But just after
    So it's the same thing just a little flipped.

    [12:54 AM]
    Excel:
    Then next week, you send the 400$ first? And I send awp after?
    Actually, we can do half first half after next week
    if you want

    [12:57 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Yeah half and half could work best. So like this let me lay it out.
    AWP for AK Now$250 after this now.
    Then I send $200
    you give me awp
    $200

    [1:00 AM]
    Excel:
    Works for me
    I'll pull my zelle and venmo for you in a sec

    [1:02 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    perfect. let me finiosh this game and lets do it
    ok lets do it
    Send me your venmo

    [1:31 AM]
    Excel:
    oKAY
    just finished lol
    @AaronDColton

    [1:32 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Good good lets do it?

    [1:32 AM]
    Excel:
    Yeah

    [1:32 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Ok perfect
    send me a trade offer as well

    [1:32 AM]
    Excel:
    You sent Israel Is T-Sided a new trade offerView trade offer

    [1:34 AM]
    Israel Is T-Sided:
    Israel Is T-Sided sent you a new trade offerView trade offer

    Steam Community :: Israel Is T-Sided
    https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198970256610/inventory/

    i sent you one
    cause yours wasnt working

    [1:35 AM]
    Excel:
    Should be good now
  2. Slidersawesome

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  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Thanks - issue is I can't confirm you were ever friends with this exact user by SteamID - all I see is a chat box with a name and profile image. Need to verify this and you can do that with a screenshot of your friend/user activity thru a web browser - when you take this and it shows you adding the user hover your mouse pointer over the users name so it shows the popup of the profile. Make sure you open this in a web browser before doing anything rather than steam client. Take the screenshot and make sure it's Full Screen and make sure steam client URL is enabled, not edited or cropped in any way! Upload HERE…NOT imgur, NOT gyazo or any other 3rd party hosting site!

    Please review this screenshot guide to help you:

    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
  4. Slidersawesome

    Slidersawesome New User

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    I'm not entirely sure where to find the friend/user activity page you are looking for. I did see this in the historical data from his SteamRep profile. If this doesn't qualify, can you send me a link or instructions for where to look?

    Links below for convenience:
    https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198970256610?t=1698197157
    https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198970256610?t=1698357754
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  5. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    None of those are what I'm asking for - please consult a friend or google search to find where friend activity is located on steam.
  6. Slidersawesome

    Slidersawesome New User

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    I think I found it, but the results did not appear to contain anything useful... I scrolled to include everything newer than July, but I know for a fact that I met and added them (accused person) during a CS2 match meaning it couldn't have been prior to August.

    I also searched the page for my username "Excel" and checked all results newer than Sept. 1st. I didn't include screenshots of that search simply because it is a lot and I don't know how to do it efficiently enough to be appropriate.
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  7. Slidersawesome

    Slidersawesome New User

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    Steam:
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    However, I have not closed the chat window yet. I am now unable to send them messages though.

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  8. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Take this screen shot again - this time hover mouse pointer over users name so it pops up their steam information box.
  9. Slidersawesome

    Slidersawesome New User

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    Like this?

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  10. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Sorry for delay - so you didn't get paid correct?
  11. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Please follow up within next 48hours
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Declined for lack of follow up/evidence
    please do not submit reports here without keeping up with it or providing evidence entirely up front. (the duration of wait wasn't but 2 weeks which is well within a reasonable timeline).
    Declined
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