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Rejected 76561198033773613 JD (SOP Scammer)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by jdunn52, Jul 5, 2013.

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  1. jdunn52

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    | steamname: JD
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:36753942
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198033773613
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/superjord0
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198033773613

    After not playing TF2 after quite a long period of time, I came back to find that I am unable to access quite a multitude of trade servers. After some investigation, it appears that I have been listed as a SOP Scammer. Investigation into the Source OP forum that I believed caused for this ban resolves into a transaction that occurred involving the exchange of cash from myself for some TF2 Items. Now, this transaction was paid for, but in the oncoming days, the money had been reversed. At that time, from what I believe was the day before, I had sold an unusual hat for $70. A few days after, the person which purchased my hat had attempted a chargeback. Paypal reversed all the transactions that I had made (this person which reported me had not been the only one), causing them to lose funds. I thought that I had resolved this situation with all parties involved, as PayPal had eventual returned their money (From what I was told). In the end, the paypal account which claimed the 470 from me had been banned, the money had been returned to all parties (As they had told me), and my paypal account had been permanently limited (Which paypal had not explained to me then and to this day why). As this was a long time ago, Im not sure how I am supposed to prove this, but then again, the report which resulted in my ban (Found here: http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/71942-Scammers-Database-(steamrep-com)/page58) Was immediately after the money had been reversed by PayPal. His 'proof' does not display me doing a chargeback or something to get the money back. I received none of that money initially, Paypal reversed it to at first refund the person which bought my Unusual hat. After their investigations, they returned the money, and banned the account. In regards to the naming of my PayPal account (anonymous anonymous), this was not made by me; a relative made this on my behalf when I was young, and was obviously paranoid about only identity scammers. PayPal refuses to alter this also.

    some evidence of myself not charging back the money: [​IMG]this image displays the transactions which were caused by PayPal. Due to the length of time that has elapsed, PayPal does not reveal anymore details. I hope to receive contact so that I may possibly explain further. Thank you !
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  2. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    You can click "download case report", once you have that info feel free to repost here.
  3. jdunn52

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    I'm not sure how this will help, but, I think this is what you were after:
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  4. You Are The One

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    can you look up the transactions and find the detail pages to see if the users left any notes on the transactions (like steam links), also can you check your trade history and link me the five users that got chargedback so I can verify they were repaid.
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    Paypal Isn't displaying any notes for me, However, I believe these accounts to have been involved, solely because I received items which I must have paid Cash for:

    For the Two transactions with Vitaly Gramovich: http://steamcommunity.com/id/steve_jobs
    With this person, I bought an Earbuds off of him, and then in another transaction, 5 keys.

    For the transaction with Andrew Wilcox, I purchased 10 keys:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561178542361489

    For the transaction with Camilla Staberg, I purchased 3 keys and a Hat:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/RainPaw

    And for the transaction with Jordan Duff, which is the cause of this entire thing, the trade of the item does not appear at all in my trade history, however, I know the item in question:
    I sold a Bubbling Unusual Nanobalaclava


    Thanks for your assistance, I hope this information helps!!
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    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    Please screenshot the trade history and the paypal details page of the trades
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    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    please followup.
  8. jdunn52

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    Sorry, I didn't know I had received a response. I'm not sure how to do what you ask. Was it this complicated for someone to place these allegations against me? This system seems extraordinarily unfair. I will try to get the information you need, I'm just not sure how.
  9. Knucklejoe

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    He's just asking for a few screenshots. You still need a screenshot of your inventory history from about the 13th of January 2012 to about the 18th. If you don't know where to find your inventory history, I think I can help.
    Open the Steam browser, click your name, click inventory. Look for a button labeled more, click inventory history. Here's what it looks like:
    [​IMG]

    You'll also need to show your Paypal details page for the same time period.

    If you need more help with screenshots, I'd give this a read: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/howto-provide-evidence-with-screenshots.3488/
  10. You Are The One

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    I have been waiting for followup for awhile now, my steam invite has been out to you for weeks. Please accept my invite or ill have to close the appeal.

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    Unfortunately, due to either lack of proficency of the English language, or rather just distinct lack of understanding, 'You Are The One' had mistaken questions into this matter for 'hostility' (whatever that means). As a result, he abruptly terminated this case. Despite my willingness to cooperate, for some reason he found it neccessary to be disrespectful towards the end of the discussion. How this 'retired staff' member is responsible for these procedures is beyond me; when obvious points of how something is flawed is highlighted, he terminates communication.

    Thanks, I suppose.
  12. You Are The One

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    Never tell your password to anyone.
    09:19 - You Are The One: ?
    09:23 - A Cool Name: Hey how's it going
    09:24 - A Cool Name: I saw you responded to one a SOP ban in february
    09:24 - A Cool Name: sorry, I hadn't been monitoring the thread
    09:24 - A Cool Name: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198033773613-jd-sop-scammer.36089/
    09:27 - You Are The One: ah yes,
    09:27 - You Are The One: I have identified 4/5 users
    09:28 - A Cool Name: What else do I need to give you?
    09:28 - A Cool Name: I've never done this before, and this was quite a long time ago
    09:30 - You Are The One: the only user i cannot verify is ____ ______
    09:31 - You Are The One: [email protected]
    09:31 - A Cool Name: From what I can recall, this is the account the person who had made the claim back causing this mess
    09:31 - A Cool Name: I recall that he had issues using his actual steam account to make the trade and made this account. It was extremely weird that that name is eerily similar to my real name.
    09:32 - A Cool Name: Due to my naivety at that age, I went through with the trade, where in hindsight all the warnings were there
    09:41 - You Are The One: what happened to the unusual
    09:43 - You Are The One: I located the hat in question,
    09:43 - You Are The One: http://www.tf2items.com/item/668137231
    09:43 - You Are The One: maybe you can identify the user who you got it from
    09:44 - A Cool Name: sure, let me have a look
    09:44 - A Cool Name: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ghog
    09:44 - A Cool Name: I purchased it from this person
    09:44 - A Cool Name: according to my inventory history
    09:45 - You Are The One: history may not be accurate
    09:45 - A Cool Name: on the link to the item
    09:45 - A Cool Name: the user below me
    09:45 - You Are The One: im asking if you are shure and how do you know you are sure
    09:45 - A Cool Name: January 12, 2012
    09:45 - You Are The One: im aware he shows up before you
    09:45 - A Cool Name: I remember trading a whole lot of items for the unusual
    09:45 - You Are The One: but do you recall that it is acutally himn
    09:45 - A Cool Name: well, i dont remember the username
    09:45 - A Cool Name: http://puu.sh/gQmND/f8b15ab8e2.png
    09:45 - You Are The One: so short answer is no
    09:46 - A Cool Name: but i remember trading all those low tier items
    09:46 - You Are The One: ..
    09:46 - You Are The One: why did you not provide the screenshot previously
    09:46 - You Are The One: that would be the user then
    09:46 - A Cool Name: the user for what?
    09:46 - A Cool Name: I never traded for cash with that user
    09:47 - You Are The One: then how does that relate to the user ____ ____
    09:47 - A Cool Name: That person was the user who purchased it from me
    09:48 - A Cool Name: but it wasn't the main account of that user
    09:48 - A Cool Name: he created it during the trade
    09:48 - A Cool Name: Im not sure why though
    09:48 - You Are The One: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053990959
    09:48 - You Are The One: A Cool Name Jan 17, 2012 @ 4:47am
    Sold an unusual, he paid first. Excellent Buyer!
    09:48 - A Cool Name: Im guessing that's his account?
    09:49 - A Cool Name: that's the right date
    09:49 - You Are The One: since you repped it
    09:49 - You Are The One: and it shows up in histroy
    09:49 - A Cool Name: I don't understand what the issue is sorry
    09:49 - You Are The One: huge issue tho
    09:49 - A Cool Name: What information am I trying to find for you?
    09:49 - You Are The One: Last Online: 1158 days ago
    09:49 - A Cool Name: Is that the profile of the '_____ _____'?
    09:49 - You Are The One: near impossible to verify
    09:50 - You Are The One: since he no longer uses steam
    09:50 - A Cool Name: What do we need to verify?
    09:50 - You Are The One: well this sucks even more now
    09:50 - A Cool Name: Im sorry ._.
    09:50 - You Are The One: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198053990959
    09:51 - A Cool Name: is this my fault?
    09:51 - A Cool Name: The purchaser of that unusual, im guessing is that account, charged back on paypal not too long afterwards
    09:51 - A Cool Name: that's when all this mess arose :/
    09:55 - You Are The One: do you know how to use steam broadcast?
    09:56 - A Cool Name: No i dont
    09:56 - A Cool Name: i havent heard of it
    09:56 - You Are The One: steam > settings > broadcasting
    09:56 - You Are The One: not sure how much of a potato your pc is,
    09:57 - A Cool Name: its pretty top tier if i say so myself :)
    09:57 - A Cool Name: what do i need to do?
    09:57 - You Are The One: at least 720p rez @2500kbt or above
    09:57 - A Cool Name: Alrighty, what am i broadcasting?
    09:58 - You Are The One: I would like to verify the pp resolution myself
    09:58 - A Cool Name: oh, sure
    09:58 - A Cool Name: let me log in first
    09:58 - You Are The One: yes
    09:59 - You Are The One: the only other setting you need to select is the first checkbox
    09:59 - A Cool Name: Alrighty, how do i get it started?
    09:59 - You Are The One: once done, lauch any game, does not matter what
    09:59 - You Are The One: and invite me to view
    10:00 - You Are The One: then you can minimize the game
    10:01 - You Are The One: black currently
    10:01 - A Cool Name: Is it working lol? i've never used this before
    10:01 - You Are The One: did you select the one checkbox?
    10:01 - A Cool Name: which checkbox?
    10:01 - You Are The One: first one,
    10:01 - You Are The One: there
    10:01 - You Are The One: i can see
    10:02 - You Are The One: drag the game out of view
    10:02 - You Are The One: locate the disputes
    10:04 - You Are The One: they show as reversed/.
    10:06 - You Are The One: ok, i see your chat
    10:07 - You Are The One: ok, go to one of the other disputs
    10:08 - You Are The One: details link
    10:08 - You Are The One: ok so pp refunded you,
    10:09 - You Are The One: did you resend the payment later?
    10:09 - You Are The One: for this user
    10:09 - You Are The One: _____
    10:12 - You Are The One: can you view the 3rd one down
    10:12 - You Are The One: _____ ______
    10:13 - You Are The One: hover over the status of it again
    10:13 - You Are The One: ok, so it seems pp reversed at least 3 of the payments
    10:14 - You Are The One: you can close the thing for now
    10:14 - You Are The One: i left the broadcase
    10:15 - You Are The One: typing sucks, new keyboard im not use to yet
    10:15 - A Cool Name: haha i know what you mean
    10:15 - A Cool Name: Do you know what to make of all this? I've got no idea lol
    10:16 - You Are The One: it seems pp refunded your payments,
    10:16 - You Are The One: did you end up repaying via pp or items?
    10:16 - A Cool Name: I'm not sure - how can I check?
    10:17 - You Are The One: you can check your inventory history for the users or pp for additional transactions from thoes users
    10:17 - You Are The One: i do have some of their steam info for you to look up
    10:17 - You Are The One: 76561198034397962
    10:17 - You Are The One: 76561198049939202
    10:17 - A Cool Name: how do i use those numbers?
    10:18 - You Are The One: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049939202
    10:18 - You Are The One: https://steamcommunity.com/id/steve_jobs
    10:18 - You Are The One: https://steamcommunity.com/id/76561178542361489
    10:18 - You Are The One: https://steamcommunity.com/id/RainPaw
    10:18 - A Cool Name: What am i looking for on those profiles?
    10:19 - You Are The One: check your inventory history to see if you repaid them
    10:20 - A Cool Name: Ahh... it doesn't appear I have
    10:20 - A Cool Name: so that's where the problem is coming from
    10:21 - A Cool Name: based on what i said in 2013 on the thread: "I thought that I had resolved this situation with all parties involved, as PayPal had eventual returned their money (From what I was told)."
    10:21 - You Are The One: yes, repayment is required for sop appeals to be granted
    10:21 - You Are The One: your pp indicates that the payments were reversed back to you, you need to show that they got paid via pp or refunded items
    10:22 - You Are The One: that is where we stand currently
    10:22 - A Cool Name: okay, let me look into my original post
    10:22 - A Cool Name: it was a long time ago, just a second please
    10:23 - You Are The One: ill be back in 5-10mins, getting a bite to chow on
    10:23 - A Cool Name: yeah no probs
    10:24 - A Cool Name: Hmm, I guess i didn't repay. I thought PayPal had solved everything for me
    10:25 - A Cool Name: Where do I go from here?
    10:38 - You Are The One: hm
    10:39 - You Are The One: since its been soo long, the most I can do is offer for you to repay the users within the next week
    10:40 - A Cool Name: well, i do not have the items
    10:40 - A Cool Name: and paypal wont allow me to add funds
    10:40 - A Cool Name: i guess ill just have to take the blemish against my account?
    10:40 - You Are The One: If you cant repay, then yes
    10:40 - A Cool Name: whelp, that sucks
    10:40 - A Cool Name: thanks anyways
    10:41 - A Cool Name: I didn't honetly know they didn't get repaid
    10:41 - A Cool Name: I thought that was the whole point of the paypal intervention
    10:43 - A Cool Name: Is there anything that can be done due to the actual time difference it has been?
    10:43 - You Are The One: no.
    10:43 - You Are The One: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/please-read-for-all-sop-tag-appeals.88818/
    10:43 - You Are The One: #3
    10:44 - A Cool Name: may i redirect you to this: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198013992752-calibrating-turian-banned-by-sop.87962/
    10:44 - A Cool Name: I would like to point out how this was out of my control and was not my fault.
    10:44 - A Cool Name: You can't assume someone has the capability to have funds sitting around in case one is scammed.
    10:45 - A Cool Name: According to your logic (or steamrep's), i'm to pay for a scammer's actions?
    10:46 - You Are The One: you said their was a repayment, their was not,
    10:46 - You Are The One: you should have made sure they were repaid asap
    10:46 - A Cool Name: I was under the impression. You must understand that this was approximately 3 years ago.
    10:47 - A Cool Name: Also, you may note that I was not aware of this ban - I had taken quite a lengthy break from TF2
    10:47 - A Cool Name: Only upon picking up TF2 again quite some time later, then noticing I was banned from particular trade servers, that was I then notified that I had 'scammed'.
    10:47 - You Are The One: It does not matter if no repayment was made and you lied about it
    10:47 - A Cool Name: I did not lie.
    10:48 - You Are The One: yes, you did.
    10:48 - A Cool Name: Please point out where I lied.
    10:48 - You Are The One: you said the users were repaid
    10:48 - You Are The One: not the case,
    10:48 - A Cool Name: After tonights discussion, you have pointed out that I was misguided - under those circumstances I was under the impression paypal had sorted it out.
    10:49 - A Cool Name: I can appreciate how I was supposed to have repaid those users, but I had not found out til much after the incident.
    10:49 - You Are The One: anyhow, this is going nowhere now, you have not repaid and lied about doing so, you have now turned hostile on me after i even offered to extend you a repayment period
    10:49 - A Cool Name: I have not become hostile?
    10:49 - You Are The One: I have now decided to reject the appeal
    10:49 - You Are The One: thanks.
    10:50 - A Cool Name: Surely you must be mistaken
    10:50 - A Cool Name: Alright, have a good one
    liar.
  13. Skyrider

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    Greetings @jdunn52.

    I'm afraid I have to reject your appeal for several reasons:

    1),
    Usually, people double check the paypal account for a confirmation, regardless of what "you've been told". You received the funds again on your paypal account, and that doesn't raise any flags for you?

    2),
    You've been given the chance to repay within a week as well but it didn't appear you wanted to do so. And seeing none of the victims were repaid in the past and present, this appeal has been double rejected because repayment of the victims is a requirement before making a SOP appeal.

    Regards,
    Skyrider
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