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Invalid 76561198053560943 Oatmeal (TF2OP SCAMMER)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by The Oatmeal, May 13, 2012.

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  1. The Oatmeal

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    A guy with the name of Jake.BeamsTC adds me to trade his sunbeams Team Captain for my Ghosts Team Captain plus additional promos. I did not check his steamrep before trading hence I did not know he was a marked scammer. After we traded, I was banned from outpost a minute later for trading with him and later tagged as scammer. I know it is my fault that I should have checked his steamrep before trading. This is also my first time I have traded with a marked scammer.

    I had added Jailbait to appeal and he said that I have traded with scammers multiple which I clealy have not. He does not know why Valve banned me and assusmed that it was due to trading with "multiple" scammers.

    Even I dont know exactly why I was banned. All I know is that I was banned on february 17 for 2 weeks because I think I traded my Dota 2 for buds with doc scratch prior to that. At that time his steamrep was clean as there was no report of him being hijacked. I am not sure I traded with the real doc or his hijacker. However I remember one part of chat where he asked me if I only wanted 1 buds or 2 and I said 1 is a fair price. He then said after the trade that he sold my dota 2 for 2 unusuals and made a 1 bud profit. If doc can confirm this (not sure if he remembers) then I believe I traded with the real guy.

    I would like to appeal my ban which I feel was given unfairly by Jailbait without any report and no chance for me to explain whatsoever.
  2. The Oatmeal

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  3. Jailbait

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    He had ample chance to explain, he got a friend of his to tell me about how 'nobody checks steamrep'.
  4. The Oatmeal

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    No I was not given enough chance to explain. You kept repeating that I traded with scammers multiple times even though I said that this was my first time. You don,t ban someone outright and mark for trading with a scammer if its the first instance. Do you have any evidence that I have traded with scammers before?
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  6. AcesGamer

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    • First offense:
      • Item/Game trades: You will receive a one-time warning for any high-value item or game trade with a SCAMMER. (This warning will be a temporary CAUTION tag that will be removed when you contact SteamRep admins.)
      • Cash trades: You will receive a CAUTION reputation tag for buying high-value items from a marked scammer. Helping scammers profit is not something we can encourage.
  7. The Oatmeal

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    I am very sorry and I wont do it again, I was never planning to help a scammer, and I just checked, the reason why he is marked a scammer is because he buy hijacked items over and over. This is my very first time buying it and I didnt use cash trade. This is what I traded with Jake. http://i.imgur.com/KiB2K.jpg
  8. Evanescence

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    You might remove that VERY KNOW scammer from your friend list too before appealing...
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  10. Perplexion ™ IDLING

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    Heya, I guess I dont have a lotta say on here, but from previous experiences, Oatmeal is a good bloke, and has made 1-2 bad decisions. I dont know the full story with the tc nor the tyrants. I personally can say, I hardly check anyones steamrep if they add me unless they have a private profile, im sure this is the same for most traders.
    I would like to say I trust Oat with my bp... He is fair and honest, and made as previously stated 1-2 bad decisions, which in his defence, are bad, but in my eyes, forgiveable.
    I just thought you guys would like my input if you care at all.
    Thanks,
    Perplexion
  11. The Oatmeal

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    Wait what? He is scammer? The why do you still allow him to trade on TF2Outpost? http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/16400

    If he was banned on tf2outpost would I have traded with him? No because that is how he contacted me. You let him sell his stuff on Outpost and then expect users to see if he is marked scammer or not? Why would anyone check SteamRep if the user is not banned? So are you now going to ban all your TF2OP users who have traded with Symezy?

    Please dont use dual policy with scammers. I see all 10$ donators who are scammers and trade with scammers to freely use outpost. My Searing El jefe was scammed by this user and since he is 10$ donator he has since been unbanned and his scammer tag repealed.
    My report: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report.2725/#post-8625
    His unban due to him being unbanned from outpost: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198047476701-herkus-tf2op-scammer.2963/

    Easy to bribe Tf2outpost admins I guess.

    You are being a hypocrite in banning me 1 min after my trade and then marking me while you dont ban your 10$ donators and in fact repeal their ban.
  12. Perplexion ™ IDLING

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    Retract my previous statement.
    Oat, i really trusted you.
  13. Jailbait

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    I'm not superman, I don't have a spider-sense that tingles every time a user who is marked uses the site. It is your job, not mine to check who you are dealing with. You seemed to be very concerned about buying hats that have been scammed, yet you yourself have been trading with scammers multiple times. Who is the hypocrite now? How about you get down from your high horse and accept that you screwed up, instead of trying to push blame on me, and having your stupid little friend telling me that 'buying from scammers is fine' and that 'nobody checks steamrep'.

    Also, you weren't scammed, and the user was marked according to the severity of his actions.
  14. Perplexion ™ IDLING

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    If that stupid little friend is me... I was misguided at the time, and now, feel sincerely stupid.
  15. Jailbait

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    No, no it wasn't you. The guy was called 'Scruffy xD' if I remember correctly.
  16. Jailbait

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    Also I ban donators all the time. They have absolutely no immunity from the rules, a common misconception that is made by a certan number of ignorant individuals who fail to look at clearly written policies regarding the matter.
  17. The Oatmeal

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    Who said buying from scammers is fine? And yes people dont check steamrep when the trade is being with items inside a trade window. That's why till today I did not know Symezy was a marked scammer as he can so freely sell his items on outpost. And that Tyrants-TC trade was one trade and not a multiple trade with Symezy. If I am going to remain marked because of this, I expect each and every member who traded with him since he was marked to be banned as well. Guess you can do that now since I have taken the liberty to let your spider senses be aware of the situation.

    You unbanned the guy who had traded me a stolen hat and that is why his tag was removed and not the other way round. In my case I was banned and then tagged because of that ban. In his case he was untagged because his ban on outpost was lifted.

    Another 10$ donator who traded with jake and is unbanned http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1704346

    I can fill this thread with countless 10$ donators who are not marked and not banned due to the fact that they donated to tf2outpost. Another one http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/8998. Bought the entire BP of Frosting/Hellacool after he was tagged.http://www.tf2items.com/item/824816283

    The fact of the matter is high value traders are overlooked when buying from scammers and hijackers and if a small unknown trader makes a mistake and buys from a scammer, he is instantly banned and marked.
  18. AcesGamer

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    Wait a minute. Why was this guy unbanned from outpost? http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/16400
    He's free to operate there, but anyone who trades with him will receive a scammer tag.

    Seems fair.
  19. Jailbait

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    Again, pushing blame around. I can look in to people who traded with marked scammers, and issue a caution to them. What I can't do is hand out bans to one time trades with scammers. VALVe had the right idea trade banning you for giving scammers buisness. Also, calling yourself a 'small' trader, after buying a beams TC made me laugh.
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    I'm going to look in to this when I get home.
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