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Accepted Report: 76561197965396876 (Mo JaMmA)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by SiickNastikillr, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. SiickNastikillr

    SiickNastikillr New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:41868651
    Victim:
    steamID: Le Voider the Trollider
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:44046973
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048359675
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198048359675

    Scammer:
    steamID: Mo JaMmA
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:2565574
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197965396876
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/nsane_d
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197965396876

    Keep in mind I am not the victim here; the victim is a player on outpost who was asking for help in reporting Mo JaMmA, and I decided to help him. The trade where this interaction occurred is here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1996081

    Description:
    The situation goes as follows. The user (Mo JaMmA) added the victim to see if he would like to buy his bubbles trilby, which the victim became interested in. The user then asked the victim if he would like to "try it out," but then became uneasy about letting him do it without leverage. The user then suggested that the victim give him his bubbles AA as leverage for his bubbles trilby, and the victim, understanding the trilby costs less than the AA, was hesitant to do so, though eventually they made an agreement: that the victim would give the user his bubbles AA as leverage, and and the user would give the victim his bubbles trilby (+ minor other items, you can see them in one of the provided screens) to try on, as long as neither of them ran off with the other's hat. As you can see from the item history, which shows that the hat was given/sold to another user/trader, and the fact that the user removed the victim directly after receiving the hat, he clearly ran off with the user's items and violated an agreement based on trust between them. Furthermore, from this trade, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1999692 , you can see the clear intention of the user to sell off his mis-begotten item.

    Screenshots (Also seen in the attachments):
    http://i.imgur.com/paDwah.png (Victim's Trading History)
    http://i.imgur.com/d6tVeh.png (TF2 Items History of the Bubbles AA in question)
    http://i.imgur.com/bWM9K.png (Screen of Chat # 1)
    http://i.imgur.com/U2gU6.png (Screen of Chat # 2)
    http://i.imgur.com/XXxbI.png (Screen of Chat # 3)

    Transcript:
    Code:
    Le Voider the Trollider: hellO?
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: hi
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: u are looking for an unusual trilby?
    Le Voider the Trollider: effect?
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: i have a bubbles
    Le Voider the Trollider: hmm
    Le Voider the Trollider: join me, I'd like to see it in game
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ok
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: slot reservation
    Le Voider the Trollider: aww
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: k im in but i dont have my item server
    Le Voider the Trollider: just wait a bit then
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ok
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: wat would u offer on it tho?
    Le Voider the Trollider: idk
    Le Voider the Trollider: really
    Le Voider the Trollider: not too much a fan of bubbles
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: wat team u on?
    Le Voider the Trollider: blu
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ah im on red one bit
    Le Voider the Trollider: me too
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ok
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: still dont have it wanna just try it on?
    Le Voider the Trollider: ??
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ill trade u the hat and u tell me if u like it
    Le Voider the Trollider: aight
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: but i need to trust u
    Le Voider the Trollider: i sweat to god ill give it back
    Le Voider the Trollider: swear* XD
    Le Voider the Trollider: idk what i could do to convince you
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ok well can u give me something so i know u wont run off?
    Le Voider the Trollider: hmm
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: not a weapon lol
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: just trade me ur unusual so we have trust
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ill stay in the server and we all trust each other
    Le Voider the Trollider: :S
    Le Voider the Trollider: idk man
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: dude
    Le Voider the Trollider: this is uber scetchy
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: i wont run off i swear to god
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: im a god fearing man dude
    Le Voider the Trollider: yh, i do to, but my unu is worth moar, so the chanse of you running off is pretty big
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: i wont man i have a concience
    Le Voider the Trollider: :/
    Le Voider the Trollider: this is terrorfying
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: trust me ill stay in the server and on ur fl so u trust me
    Le Voider the Trollider: well
    Le Voider the Trollider: you might just run away and never speak to me again
    Le Voider the Trollider: kinda scared for that tbh
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: im not like that man
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: im damn there a hippi XD
    Le Voider the Trollider: ...
    Le Voider the Trollider: im terrorfied
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: dont be man ill give u some more stuff so we have trust then i guess
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: just dont run off
    Le Voider the Trollider: i wont, you will
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: the tossle is my favorite hat eer
    Le Voider the Trollider: omg, this is horrible
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: dude u have all my favorite items i wont run off
    Le Voider the Trollider: and you have mine
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: thats fair rite there nobody runs off
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: but if u do i will report u
    Le Voider the Trollider: well, i have been ripped off soooooooo many times
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: im not that kinda guy
    Le Voider the Trollider: of course not......
    Le Voider the Trollider: i will report you.....
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: ok same here
    Le Voider the Trollider: omfg
    Le Voider the Trollider: f✿✿✿ it
    Le Voider the Trollider: ill prepare to report you
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: dude its not that big a deal its just a quick look at the hat
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA: u like it?
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA has accepted your request to trade.
    Lέø°.☠ Mo JaMmA is now Offline.

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  2. Mo JaMmA

    Mo JaMmA New User

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    STEAM_0:0:2565574
    wow its sad how that kid wrapped u around his fingers... ill tell u what happened the damn kid tried on my hat and not in the steam chat but in the trade chat he sayed that he liked it and that he would trade his unusual for it if i added some stuff and thats when u see all my other items. when i asked him " u like it?" in the trade chat [which he has no screen shot of for some reason] he said yes and we further discussed OUR bussiness not some guy who decided to file a false report for some kid. even if i did run off with his hat [which i didnt] its not scamming its him being dumb enough to let me wear the hat good day.
  3. SiickNastikillr

    SiickNastikillr New User

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    I had thought that you were not going to comment...well, no matter. Anyways, do you have screens or any proof of your claims? I had thought it might be possible something had gone on in trade chat, but from the way the steam chat seemed to go, it is almost a certainty that what he told me was true. Also, a scammer, as defined by SteamRep, is "anyone that uses deception, thievery, lies, or anything that is underhanded to take advantage of or steal from another trader." If what happened is true, then you certainly deceived him, lied to him, and stole from him. You are the literal definition of a scammer, though maybe not quite the same type as most of the scammers that are listed on this site.
  4. AcesGamer

    AcesGamer User

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    Do you have any screenshots of this "business" you guys conducted?
  5. Mo JaMmA

    Mo JaMmA New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:0:2565574
    well had i known that this guy would have filed for false claims after he figured out that his hat was suposebly worth more than mines [it kinda wasnt] then i would have i dont think i should have to take screenshots of everything. who's to say that hes innocent and im guilty or vice versa its really his word against mines. i can tell u one thing, i am no scammer, have u noticed some how he has screenshots of everything except the trade chat? look at the non existing evidence.
  6. AcesGamer

    AcesGamer User

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    He has evidence and screenshots, you don't.
  7. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    The evidence shows that the items in question were to establish trust regarding allowing the hat to be tried on, not as payment. Mo Jamma is welcome to appeal this with our appeals staff here but I must go strictly by evidence and the evidence shows a scam.

    Thank you for the report.