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Archived Report: 76561197998740052 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by nwah, Apr 27, 2019.

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  1. nwah

    nwah New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561197998740052

    Victim profile: 76561198027946776

    What happened? Description:
    He added me after I put my Gut Knife up for trade on csgotraders.net .
    He provided a lot of information, took his time and invited me to his twitch stream where he showed his paypal account, facebook account and steam trade history to me. He explained to me how he was a very active and successful trader. He had a few trades of people "gifting" him items in his history (trying to prove how he had successfull trades with knives etc. before). He also clicked through his paypal account showing me how it was a business account and had $8000 cash available. He provided a lot of information like pictures of "his" ID card and drivers license, his "real" name, facebook account, adress etc.

    We then went to discord where he proposed to live stream our screens to each other so I could see that he wasn't accepting my trade before he sent me the money on paypal. We also phoned for a few minutes. I was suspicious because his offer ($220) was a lot higher than my knifes market value (~100$ maybe). He was very friendly and helpful the whole time and tried to prove he was legit and professional by providing tons of information. I started googling some of the info he gave me and found this thread:
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads...counter-strike-global-offensive-items.185578/

    This is the main evidence that made me back out of the trade. I am 100% sure that the person I talked to is the same or a friend of the scammer in the thread linked above. The information this scammer gave to the scammed guy is exactly the same I received. Check the attached chatlogs from the thread above.
    (Bluffy:
    heres all info about me
    Hidden Content:
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    phone number, can call me aswell and check it
    not hiding that kinda info cuz im not scamming people, scammers never share such info to be honest
    im going to eat and will come in 10 mins)

    Not only that but also the steam profile used for the linked scam contains sections that are copy pasted to the steam profile via which he attempted to scam me. See for yourself:
    https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198080277995 (linked scam)
    https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998740052 (account that attempted to scam me)
    Same birthday, info etc. (he might have changed it by now though)

    I confronted him with the other account and how it was reported on steamrep and he admitted that it was "his friends account" (see attached screenshot 13.png) After I confronted him he unfriended me and went offline.
    He didnt actually scam me but I hope the evidence I provided is clear enough to see the attempt.

    Hope this evidence is enough to have the account reported on here so he has to spend some time to get a fresh account for scamming. :)
    Please let me know if I left out any important information.​

    Provide Evidence:

    [5:06 PM]
    nwah:
    Hi
    you added me?

    [5:07 PM]
    :
    hey
    yeah
    intersetd in your ★ StatTrak™ Gut Knife | Black Laminate

    [5:07 PM]
    nwah:
    ok!

    [5:07 PM]
    :
    would u mind accepting 220 USD for it ?

    [5:08 PM]
    nwah:
    via paypal?

    [5:08 PM]
    :
    i can do paypal if u want to
    and many other transactions

    [5:09 PM]
    nwah:
    idk i was looking for item trading vs another knife
    seems kinda risky

    [5:09 PM]
    :
    well yeah i got ur point that steam is f✿✿✿ed up by scammers nowadays but seriously do i look like a scammer to u with 300 levels, 10 years on service , more than 36000 trades , 4900 hours on csgo , more than 300 feedbacks since 2016 year? and also with 4,000 USD inventory , idk mate
    U got discord?

    [5:10 PM]
    nwah:
    idk that doesnt mean much tbh :)
    dont have discord
    how would you suggest trading?

    [5:10 PM]
    :
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....555/5B5F0695D8A1BFB445FE4699195CFD20068E9AEA/

    all items that i have right now i got from cashtrades
    doing them everyday
    and that doesnot mean much ?
    i mean if u have done cash trades and u can provide me i will go first
    no problem for me

    [5:11 PM]
    nwah:
    me going first would be the only option?

    [5:11 PM]
    :
    no
    can u join my twitch livestream real quick

    [5:11 PM]
    nwah:
    link?

    [5:12 PM]
    :
    https://www.twitch.tv/halamadridbero
    tell me once u can see my screen :)

    [5:13 PM]
    nwah:
    got some ads

    [5:13 PM]
    :
    kk

    [5:13 PM]
    nwah:
    ok ready

    [5:15 PM]
    :
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....530/89E683B82A00BB5C2B53CF3137B9465959DA977D/

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002529355201

    [5:17 PM]
    nwah:
    prefer paypal
    not sure tho yet
    thanks for the explaination!
    first time cash trading, will read into it
    you sure put al ot of effort into it ;)
    ok one sec brb

    [5:18 PM]
    :
    ok

    [5:19 PM]
    nwah:
    so i got a friend who did a lot of tf2 cash trading and has got some experience, i will talk to him about everything
    ok for you? just need some time :)

    [5:19 PM]
    :
    no problem

    [5:19 PM]
    nwah:
    cool

    [5:20 PM]
    :
    then ill stop streaming and tell me when ur ready ;)

    [5:20 PM]
    nwah:
    kk
    there is just a lot of scammers and with paypal there is always the risk of refunding right?

    [5:20 PM]
    :
    if you send it as gift you cant refund it
    also i would never ruin my bussiness account for refunding people's money and scamming
    i mean u cant be 100% sure about me
    everyone can change mind and become scammer
    but im reselling and making profit, why would i ruin my reputation

    [5:22 PM]
    nwah:
    yeah makes sense

    [5:22 PM]
    :
    i always prefer to make it via bitcoins cuz its not refundable
    u said paypal and thats why i opened it :D

    [5:22 PM]
    nwah:
    :D
    what other options did you mention?
    bitcoin, paypal, ..?

    [5:23 PM]
    :
    btc, paypal, skrill, western union, bank transfer, steam wallet, wechat, alipay, qiwi, webmoney

    [5:23 PM]
    nwah:
    wow thats a lot

    [5:23 PM]
    :
    yepp
    doing trades with a lot of guys from different countries and thats why
    :D
    steam wallet method is not refundable aswell, its done via steam gift cards from g2wa
    g2a *

    [5:24 PM]
    nwah:
    dont need that much steam credit tho :D

    [5:24 PM]
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    yeah i always prefer real money , its more worthy

    [5:25 PM]
    nwah:
    true

    [5:25 PM]
    :
    i just look numbers here , playing the game rarely and trading item for item is dead for me when valve released 7 day trading cooldown, it sucks as f✿✿✿

    [5:25 PM]
    nwah:
    yeah thats kinda annoying
    well, thanks for your patience!i will talk to you as soon as i looked into it a little more and talked to my friend

    [5:26 PM]
    :
    yeah no problem

    [5:26 PM]
    nwah:
    youre pretty much online everyday anyway right? :)

    [5:26 PM]
    :
    definitely

    [5:27 PM]
    nwah:
    cool talk to you later

    [5:27 PM]
    :
    kk

    [8:24 PM]
    nwah:
    hey u there?

    [8:24 PM]
    :
    yup

    [8:25 PM]
    nwah:
    so i talked to my friend adn he said if you pay on paypal via gift and family and friends its non refundable
    does that work for you?

    [8:25 PM]
    :
    ofc
    i always pay like that
    thats what i meant when i told u if u send it as gift

    [8:25 PM]
    nwah:
    ok nice
    and he told me for you to add a note saying "this is paying for digital items and non refundable" or something like that

    [8:26 PM]
    :
    yeah i know
    i always note like this : paying this amount for csgo virtual items. No refund will be accepted for this transaction ''

    [8:27 PM]
    nwah:
    ok sounds good :)

    [8:28 PM]
    :
    send me your paypal email so i can prepare it

    [8:28 PM]
    nwah:
    yep
    my paypal email is [email protected]

    [8:29 PM]
    :
    u prefer EUR or USD ?

    [8:29 PM]
    nwah:
    i think euro is better

    [8:29 PM]
    :
    it will be 200 euros then
    220 usd = 200 eur

    [8:29 PM]
    nwah:
    yep

    [8:30 PM]
    :
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....749/15F8C0B38F91CCB9EAA42F18147691A74CDE83B8/

    100% correct ?

    [8:31 PM]
    nwah:
    yep!

    [8:31 PM]
    :
    Trade Offer URL:
    https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=38474324&token=aq-QzOxV

    tell me once offer is sent to confirm payment

    [8:33 PM]
    nwah:
    offer is ready
    but it thought you were going first

    [8:34 PM]
    :
    i need to see if its sent and i will pay it immediately, if you had done a lot of cash trades and u could provide them i would definitely go first, so your choice

    [8:34 PM]
    nwah:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....784/323AE34DD7BF40A22376A9A6F1AB568A66C216B4/

    [8:34 PM]
    :
    even after that u gotta confirm it on phone

    [8:34 PM]
    nwah:
    i see your point m8

    [8:35 PM]
    :
    do you have discord ?

    [8:35 PM]
    nwah:
    i didnt iniate the trade tho and i really dont have any interest in scamming you
    but of course you dont know me and vice versa :)
    i could install discord
    u there?

    [8:36 PM]
    :
    yes
    install please

    [8:37 PM]
    nwah:
    ok im registering an account right now 1 sec

    [8:38 PM]
    :
    okay

    [8:41 PM]
    nwah:
    ok ready
    nick is nwah12345

    [8:41 PM]
    :
    numbers ?
    DiamondX#2207
    thats me add me

    [8:43 PM]
    nwah:
    can hear you

    [8:43 PM]
    :
    cant hear u

    [8:43 PM]
    nwah:
    one sec ill download the client
    not working in browser somehow

    [8:43 PM]
    :
    yeah u need client

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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    @nwah I need the one screenshot you edited - Unedited please.
    Then I can continue working this report - we do not review edited screenshots and it just so happens that one is super important.

    Also I've hidden that personal data - do not post info like that here, its not needed.
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    @nwah Please follow up asap!
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    nwah New User

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    I'd prefer to not post the altered screenshots openly since they contain my paypal information. Could I send them to you via PM?
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    ok I'm just going to move them here and hide them from public view so you could go ahead and post them and I'll do that anyway.
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    nwah New User

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    Ok, thank you, see attached files
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    ok so you traded an item and didn't get paid correct?
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    nwah New User

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    Not exactly. As I tried to explain, I didn't trade with him in the end, because I found his other account: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198080277995
    It is 100 % clear that these two accounts are from the same person. Please refer to this thread: https://forums.steamrep.com/threads...counter-strike-global-offensive-items.185578/
    The personal Info he gave to me (to prove that he was legit) is 100% the same as in the scam linked above. He gave the same name, photo of ID, telephone number etc. as to the guy that was scammed in the other thread. The method of setting up the scam was also exactly the same (showing off his trade history and paypal account via screensharing / twitch). I think it also is very telling that he was reported twice just in the 3 days since I submitted my report. If you compare those threads (that were rejected because it was about steam wallet codes) to mine you will see that he is always pulling the same stunt.

    It is obvious that he just made another account after the former was reported here. He even admitted that the other account I linked was "his friends account". Thats why I didnt trade with him. It clearly is a scam attempt.
  9. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    ok where in the chat did this user give you that personal information about themselves?
    I don't see that anywhere in the steam chat logs.
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    nwah New User

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Ok so here is the rub... I can't review anything thru discord so all of that can't be utilized.
    You therefore made the report assuming the user would not pay you and scam you.
    The other reports are therefore also irrelevant since we can't match up what was said thru steam chat.
    We can't review reports based off assumptions alone - they could have paid you we would never know.
    The other information and while you did the right thing to research isn't something we can use to review or match up to any other user.
    At the most I could have linked up as an alt and rejected report but at this point the report will likely have to be rejected on the above grounds.
    So unless you have more which I don't believe you have it I'll have no choice.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-submission-fundamentals.169802/
    That link there explains what we do and do not accept for evidence.
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    nwah New User

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    I see your point. Not accepting screenshots from a discord chat and relying on steam chat, however, seems kind of arbitrary. Especially since the Discord account the scammer used can be linked to his Steam account. What he said in Discord should therefore be treated equally to what he said on Steam. When you link my evidence to the accepted case of his alt account there really is no doubt. I do understand that that might not be possible under the rules you set here though.

    I'm just glad I didn't get scammed and would like to increase the chances of other also not getting scammed by this guy - checking his inventory I see that he got like 10 new knives in the last 3 days alone. I would propose to at least tag him as a suspicious account or something like that if you have an option to do so. Nevertheless, Thank you for your time.
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Nothing thru Discord is acceptable evidence - you are reporting a Steam user - not a discord user.
    You did the right thing with regards to checking the user out however with this report there is no evidence to link the user to a scam since it was on assuming they would but we don't know that. We don't just tag users on the assumption alone..that wouldn't be right, certainly you would disagree if we did so to yourself for a similar accusation.
    So with that I'm going to Archive report due to the above.
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