Scam Report Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulant behavior Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items Accused profile: 76561198040129858 Victim profile: 76561198110975329 What happened? Description: So, I paid an australium scattergun(professional) for this guys amaranthine runners warm up. I asked him what he had bought it for, and he told me he paid a sunbeams batters helmet for it. When in fact, after researching, someone offered the warm up on his batter and he had them add a bud. He lied to me and continues to be stubborn. Provide Evidence: masterblokz: I tried adding you, and it gave me the message that someone blocked me. masterblokz: Now, why did you tell me you paid a batters helm for it? masterblokz: in overpay, because you "wanted the nice scout hat" Nickps: it happens if you deny your friend request masterblokz: those aren't the exact words, but you did tell me that YOU offered it for the warm up as OVERPAY when in fact you had someone add a bud to the warm up after they offered it for your helm. Nickps: well that sale happened several weeks after you pm me , and i sell lots of unusuals everyday so i may forgot that he addes the buds , anyways i didnt forced you to do the trade in fact i asked if you were sure in-trade masterblokz: no you didn't masterblokz: and I pmed you the same day I traded you Nickps: i asked you Nickps: if you are not sure its fine by me masterblokz: don't lie to me nick, it's sharking. masterblokz: I told you what did you pay for it a day before or during the same day and you told me a batters helm Nickps: sharking? whats your definition of sharking can you tell me masterblokz: saying someonthing is worth more than it actually is masterblokz: something* masterblokz: be honest with me nick Nickps: why do you think your scatter its worth way more than the runners warm up anyways? masterblokz: because I've seen a 4 bud offer on the scatter masterblokz: you also got a cloud 9 bonk boy for it, not to forget that Nickps: it doesnt mean that every aussie scatter owner can get that masterblokz: well it doesn't mean that you can ignore the fact that you lied to me masterblokz: why did you tell me that you offered it on the warm up as overpay? masterblokz: say "someone offered the warm up for my sunbeams batters helm and he added a bud" Nickps: well i said i sold it for a sunbeams batters , honestly i forgot that a bud was added into that trade . i do tons of trades and that sale happened quite a while ago masterblokz: not "i paid a sunbeams batters helm for it because it looks nice" (or some s✿✿✿ like that) Nickps: is it prices , the runners warm up? Nickps: priced- masterblokz: yep masterblokz: f✿✿✿✿✿✿ 3.5 buds Nickps: 3.5 its pretty deccent still , dont see how is it sharking . sharking its when somebody gets way more than just about 0.5 - 1 bud in difference masterblokz: not when the person your trading with has only one valuable item masterblokz: and you put your profits before him when you already have a 50+ bud backpack masterblokz: you should atleast give me an earbud for it man... Nickps: that unusual its valuable still and its 1/1 on the market it seems , maybe you just dont want to try selling it ? masterblokz: i've tried selling it masterblokz: noone wants to mess with new effects masterblokz: and so what if it's 1 of 1 masterblokz: if it's not valuable it's not valubale masterblokz: valuable* Nickps: a bud , wow masterblokz: that's like saying a nuts n bolts 1 of 1 hat is good masterblokz: yeah, a bud. masterblokz: because not only did you lie to me but you're saying that it doesn't matter because it was only .5-1 Nickps: If you think i lied , i respect that but not my issue . i already told you i missed that he added that item . And its not like i forced you , you asked me that you were interested in that unusual masterblokz: yeah, you should be honest about its price and what you paid tho. Nickps: And i asked you several times if you were sure of the trade even masterblokz: no you didn't. masterblokz: i asked you several times that you would be sure to save the scatter for a month masterblokz: and you said yeah masterblokz: sure masterblokz: yes Nickps: i got a good offer and i took it , wouldnt you do the same? masterblokz: yeah, if I didn't lie about what I paid Nickps: and if you dont remember certain things , like when i typed you in-trade . "if you are not sure , its fine by me" masterblokz: so you remember that but not the guy adding a BUD to the trade? masterblokz: saying are you sure about the trade still isn't anything masterblokz: if you lie about it man masterblokz: come on nick, look at your backpack and look at mine Nickps: why you think bp.tf its a bible? masterblokz: because people use reliable evidence Nickps: its priced at 3.5 buds ,wow it must be worth that masterblokz: stop talking about f✿✿✿✿✿✿ bibles lets get back to the fact that you scammed me and still aren't explaining truthfully masterblokz: if I must I'll take it to steamrep because you aren't giving me an answer Nickps: i sold an harvest moon executionar for a morning glory dread hood and a mistly skull belt + 6 keys and its priced at 26 buds masterblokz: what does that have to do with anything\ Nickps: if you want do it , ill just say that i didnt forced you to do anything masterblokz: IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU DIDNT f✿✿✿✿✿✿ FORCE ME MAN, I ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND YOU REPLIED WITH A LIE AND CAUSED ME TO LOSE A BUD masterblokz: if you had told me that you paid 3.5 for it, I would take full f✿✿✿✿✿✿ blame if I did the trade Nickps: to lose a bud , it will be really nice to explain that in steamrep , im probably sure they dont base their opinions about pricing in backpack.tf , which its only a guide about pricing masterblokz: i'm done, I'm just gonna go report you. all you do is talk about bibles and not about how you are definitely in the wrong Nickps: okay mate masterblokz: i'll not waste my time to report you if you give me an honest response other than respones that have nothing to do with what i'm talking to you about Nickps: an honest response? lets say that , i have to remember exactly all my unusual trades? masterblokz: no, just the 3 that happen in one month bud Nickps: in one month you can sell several unusuals masterblokz: how valuable is this unusual to you? since you obviously love it since you bought it for a sunbeams batters helm obviously Nickps: i was thinking about sell it for about 4,5 buds if i remember masterblokz: okay, well masterblokz: since you ripped me off a bud and don't want to give me a pure bud for it, how about you give me the cloud 9 bonk boy and I can add like 5 keys to it masterblokz: for the warm up Nickps: wow , isnt that worst than giving you a bud¡? masterblokz: you should do either one because you know that you sharked/scammed me nick masterblokz: i don't care which one but you probably realize how I feel losing my BP Nickps: well , do you even investigate well what sharked is and see some examples in steamrep? masterblokz: yep, sharked is like me saying " hey I have this nuts and bolts dread knot worth 3 buds but I'll QS it for 2 buds" to a new player Nickps: do you realize that most of that sharkers first contact their victim Nickps is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join. Nickps: they add them , and then do their s✿✿✿ offer which in most of cases its scamming for a way higher value masterblokz: "most" Nickps: i mean , you think that i sharked you because backpack.tf priced the warp up by 3.5 and you payed an aussie scatter for it Nickps: seriously , is that trade that bad? masterblokz: when it's all I have yes Nickps: for now you are just another "outlier" masterblokz: how? masterblokz: do you know what an outlier is? what the f✿✿✿? Nickps: lets say , an unusual pricing in bp.tf masterblokz: are you saying that I did pay too much for your hat? Nickps: the suggestor puts "x" unusual its worth 2.5-3 buds and he is based on 3 sales , one payed 2.5 buds , the other 3 in unusuals and the other 4 . but there is one on the market which b/o its 3 buds Nickps: the one who payed 4 its the outlier masterblokz: so now you're just saying that you scammed me? Nickps: being an outlier doesnt mean that you have been scammed , like really masterblokz: yes it does masterblokz: nick you told me that you bought it when you didn't masterblokz: you made a mistake and you should make up for it masterblokz: you said it like you knew it masterblokz: i remember my words masterblokz: "wow but that batters helm must be worth a lot" "yeah but I like the hat" Nickps: i made a mistake when i forgot that item added into that trade , but i also remember that i never forced you to do that trade masterblokz: yeah you can't force someone to do a trade so stop saying that masterblokz: it's not just about him adding a bud it's that you told me those exact things that you love the warm up and stuff Nickps: thats what sharkers do , dont you know that? masterblokz: no they don't masterblokz: unless you have someones account you can't make someone do a trade Nickps: adding people who dont have knowledge about trading and offer them something that is nothing compared on what they own , lying about its value its a form of forcing someone Nickps: they are forcing the trade adding them masterblokz: no it's not masterblokz: if the person doesn't want to do it they won't do it masterblokz: it's the fact that I trusted you because you seemed like a good person and you ended up lying Nickps: but if the other person dont know anything about trading? masterblokz: then they wouldnt have gotten forced masterblokz: they did it on their own responsibility Nickps: and judging by the fact that you know well backpack.tf im sure you are not any new trader masterblokz: so just to end this convo, you don't give a f✿✿✿ about scamming me and are not gonna compensate for me being wrong in trusting you? Nickps: lol , so now im not a reputable person just because i forgot one thing . 2. i didnt force you to trade that unusual 3. if you messaged me before i trade the scatter i would return it to you , i just took a good offer . Tell me , wouldnt you do the same? masterblokz: no i wouldn't lie masterblokz: sorry, i'm not like that Nickps: well you said i lie , everyone can make mistakes masterblokz: and stop f✿✿✿✿✿✿ saying you forgot, you didn't forget nick Nickps: from all the unusuals i owned why you picked the runners? masterblokz: because I main scout masterblokz: and liked amaranthine Nickps: lets say , you pick one random unusual i own Nickps: i didnt even mentioned it masterblokz: it was the only good looking one imo, and had a nice effect. Nickps: and i ahev to deliberate remember for how much i sold it Nickps: have- masterblokz: yeah if you don't remember say you don't remember, don't lie about it tho Nickps: i didnt even suggest to you which unusual you should pick masterblokz: yeah you didn't Nickps: and , why are you so dense and say i lied about i didnt remember that an earbud was added when i sold it? masterblokz: give me an earbud or something nick cmon masterblokz: if you scam me make up for it, don't continue to lie Nickps: its impossible to argue with you , atthe end you will end up saying i was lying masterblokz: because you were masterblokz: wouldn't argue if you didn't lie Nickps: lets put it this way , you pick one out of my 50 unusuals i own Nickps: a random one masterblokz: you own about 10 or 15 holy s✿✿✿ masterblokz: 35 now Nickps: and i have to exactly remember for how much i sold that unusual Nickps: i just sincerelly though in that moment that i sold it for the batters , if i made a msitake i apologize . because at the end , i know i never pushed the trade or force you to make it Nickps: mistake- masterblokz: apologizing after screwing someone doesn't make up someone losing $25 dollars Nickps: its been a week after that trade , why are you so inpatient? good offers tend to come after more weeks , even a month masterblokz: you know that everyone goes after backpack.tf masterblokz: and it will drive people away when you have no offers and your unusual is priced low Nickps: if all were guided by backpack.tf prices then it wouldnt be ever a raise for any item Nickps: or unusual masterblokz: I give up, in the end you scammed me and don't give a s✿✿✿. masterblokz: bye nick Nickps: if you think i dont care why i would waste time explaining my point of view? masterblokz: because you don't want to get a bad reputation and don't wanna have a pending steamrep report Nickps: we were talking before you mentioned a report masterblokz: you know about steamrep, mr experienced trader. Nickps: i added you because you posted a comment in my trades , and you didnt mentioned a report masterblokz: and you know that pending reports shut off your outpost til they are resolved masterblokz: we all know how long that takes for a report to be resolved lol Nickps: how are you even going to make the thread , in the screenshots you clearly take the iniciative and you are the person interested in that unusual masterblokz: this entire chat of you making different stories Nickps: different stoies?