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  1. EduardoTLS

    EduardoTLS New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561198168522001

    Victim profile: 76561198362781984

    What happened? Description:
    I sold him several expensive CSGO items (With the list below it is even possible to track the trade history of each skin on csgofloat), we agreed the value of approximately 33,000 USD, equivalent to 0.7 BTC on the day of the trade. He accepted the trade, received all the skins but didn't pay me until today, when the skins were released to trade in his inventory I requested them back and he started selling instantly to cancel the trade proposal on steam.
    He made up the excuse that someone else from Steam owed him +1 BTC because he couldn't pay me and used that excuse for months.
    Today his excuse for not paying me is the war in Ukraine.

    This has been going on for over 3 months now, and he hasn't paid me a dime until today.
    Below is the list of some of the main items he took from me in the trade and did not pay me, through the float it is possible to track the skin trades in csgofloat, this serves as proof that the skins were really mine and I sent them to him.

    Several times I tried to trade the skins he had in his inventory, so that he would return the amount he owes me, but even though he had several skins he didn't accept any proposal.

    [I will include the list of items in the evidence block]​

    Provide Evidence:
    These were some items included in the exchange, to prove that the items were mine and were sent to accused, just search for the item and the float described on the csgofloat website

    AWP Dragon Lore [0.006578490138]
    M4A4 Howl [0.03905606269836]
    Karambit Lore [0.00272210338153]
    Slingshot Glove [0.10781849175692]
    Arid Glove [0.07576255500317]
    Butterfly Lore [0.085489153862]
    Butterfly Fade 99% [0.00527238706127]
    AWP The Prince [0.06486224383116]

    Parts of the conversation from the negotiation start, and new negotiations are in the package of screenshots and videos.
    The trade has been going on for a long time (more than 3 months ago) so I can't take a recent screenshot with the first trade, but I saved screenshots of the trade before steam deleted it.

    I couldn't upload all the evidence due to the 3MB limit here on the site, so I'm uploading the full evidence on MEGA (Pass: VSNPROOF)
    https://mega.nz/#P!AgHTlWCJOttzUctt...-pu9ERvYES9WW4eTP4aHpY4YMCMWl6xK6vfieUw6iKRyk

    terça-feira, 1 de março de 2022

    [01/03/2022 08:47]
    ❥:
    My 0.7 BTC bro

    [01/03/2022 08:48]
    VSN:
    Hey man

    [01/03/2022 08:48]
    ❥:
    Hello

    [01/03/2022 08:48]
    VSN:
    We have war
    Many problem on Russia
    Can’t do anything rn

    [01/03/2022 08:50]
    ❥:
    I'm sorry about that, hope you're okay

    [01/03/2022 08:51]
    VSN:
    I hope they and soon
    Tanks on my city
    They fight
    I have guns and help with all to my people
    s✿✿✿ happens

    domingo, 13 de março de 2022

    [10:15]
    ❥:
    Hello, any news?
    Are you managing to accumulate Bitcoin?
    To pay the 0.75 BTC you owe me, or pay me back in skins, you have multiple skins.
    I understand your situation, but for sure you must have Bitcoin now, Russian Ruble is doomed.

    [10:35]
    ❥:
    You have about 0.55 BTC on your inventory
    And you keep buying skins, so you must have money.
    0.75 BTC is still a low value, you took ~35,000 USD in skins from me.

    [10:43]
    VSN:
    Hey man , I invest all money to helping Ukrainian army , humanitarian, kids and old people , I don’t have any crypto for now , can’t do anything for now sorry
    We have big war , many people died
    Many houses ruined and crash
    My house gonna too

    [10:45]
    ❥:
    Do you live in Ukraine?

    [10:45]
    VSN:
    Yep
    Kharkov
    All city on ruined rn
    We spent with friends over 300 k $ for helping, save many life’s

    [10:47]
    ❥:
    It's my life? You took me ~35K USD

    [10:47]
    VSN:
    I hope when they finished, I can back what I own , that guy who own me 1 btc ignore me and not answer
    It is not yours last money , and I hope you can wait
    I understand you need it but not possible for now

    [10:48]
    ❥:
    I've been waiting a long time
    You have skins in your inventory and keep buying skins

    [10:49]
    VSN:
    I don't touch skins, I need to live on something

    [10:50]
    ❥:
    Keep your current inventory to pay me ~0.55 BTC until the 20th.

    [11:00]
    ❥:
    Você propôs uma troca para VSNOwe me 35.000 USD in Skins (0.7 BTC) from December 2021. This trade is equivalent to approximately 20,000 USDVer proposta
    Calculate the value of these skins and return them to me, before you have nothing left to pay me.
    At least accept this, you owe me that, you scammed me!

    [11:10]
    VSN:
    Read the what to write
    What I write you

    [11:23]
    VSN:
    I ask my friends
    Maybe I own 15k $
    Close to 20 th

    [11:25]
    ❥:
    you are selling the skins to cancel the trade
    You did this to not return my skins in December 2021

    [11:27]
    VSN:
    I cancel
    It when you sent
    Cuz I not give skins
    Like I said
    I don't touch skins, I need to live on something

    [11:28]
    ❥:
    I need it too, and you took it from me
    You say you have money but you don't pay me a dime!
    If you didn't have the money to pay me that day why did you accept the trade?
    And why didn't you want to return the skins later?
    You scammed me, there's no other explanation

    [11:33]
    VSN:
    Dude I same like you wait 1btc
    What I can do ? For now
    You just need wait

    [11:35]
    ❥:
    You haven't sent me a cent in 3 months
    How do you manage to raise 300K to DONATE and not raise 30K to pay me?

    [11:35]
    VSN:
    I said with many my friends
    Not only I

    [11:36]
    ❥:
    Even so

    [11:36]
    VSN:
    And for sure Ukrainian army and people need more help
    Than you
    It is not last yours money
    you are now talking like an egoinst and everything is fine for you what is happening with us, because it did not concern your family
    In Ukraine many people die , and many people lose everting
    And I helping how I can there
    And I see you don’t care
    You care about your money only

    [11:40]
    ❥:
    I'm sorry about that, but don't use the Ukraine situation as an excuse for not paying me, our negotiation happened long before that.
    I will keep waiting .. ..
    I've been waiting for 3 months, trusting you, I don't think only about myself.

    [11:41]
    VSN:
    if the third world war starts, maybe you will feel how it is to be in the center of bombs and shelling and killed, but I sincerely wish that you and your family do not experience this, because it is very scary and painful

    [11:41]
    ❥:
    You thought only of yourself when you didn't want to return my skins.
    You have internet, you must be far from the war.

    [11:43]
    VSN:
    Yes I have for now
    And some times work star link
    From
    Ilon mask
    we sometimes turn off the light and the Internet when they bomb

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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    All evidence must be uploaded to report one at a time not zip or hosted else where.
    You can upload 15 images per reply
    Must also ONLY be steam chat screenshots if you went to any other application to discuss the situation then just say so now.

    Lastly follow next set of instructions to verify identity - without that first then nothing will be reviewed.
  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Thanks - issue is I can't confirm you were ever friends with this exact user by SteamID - all I see is a chat box with a name and profile image. Need to verify this and you can do that with a screenshot of your friend/user activity thru a web browser - when you take this and it shows you adding the user hover your mouse pointer over the users name so it shows the popup of the profile. Make sure you open this in a web browser before doing anything rather than steam client. Take the screenshot and make sure it's Full Screen and make sure steam client URL is enabled, not edited or cropped in any way! Upload HERE…NOT imgur, NOT gyazo or any other 3rd party hosting site!

    Please review this screenshot guide to help you:

    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
  4. EduardoTLS

    EduardoTLS New User

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    I made my friends list public to prove I have him added right now.
    The screenshots show our last conversation today.
    Unfortunately steam deletes conversations after 14 days, so I can't take recent screenshots of our initial negotiation.

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  5. EduardoTLS

    EduardoTLS New User

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    It is also possible to track the skins through csgofloat with the information I sent initially.
    It's proof that the exchange happened with those items, VSN sold it to other guys and still didn't pay me.

    AWP Dragon Lore [0.006578490138]
    M4A4 Howl [0.03905606269836]
    Karambit Lore [0.00272210338153]
    Slingshot Glove [0.10781849175692]
    Arid Glove [0.07576255500317]
    Butterfly Lore [0.085489153862]
    Butterfly Fade 99% [0.00527238706127]
    AWP The Prince [0.06486224383116]
  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I need the screenshot of the chat where you gave the user the BTC address to send funds to - ONLY raw steam chat screenshot...no other alternatives will be acceptable.
    Stay on topic only provide what I'm asking for
  7. EduardoTLS

    EduardoTLS New User

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    I don't have the conversation history with the BTC address of December 2021, only the prints inside the ZIP that I sent initially are screenshots from 3 months ago, steam deletes the history of messages more than 14 days after sent.
    I can't redo them, but the Bitcoin address of that print is the same, you can see that I didn't receive the trade value.
    At that address I received a value but it was from another negotiation without connection with this one.

    And in the recent conversation (today), I didn't send him any address because he says he can't pay me.

    The address of the trade was: bc1qzazlh7gsc35zx9rthsrx4yg5glw60939aj0pq7
    After a while I received a value of 0.26xxx but it was from another bussiness (from Appodeal) with no connection to the trade and it happened more than 1 month after the trade.

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    EduardoTLS New User

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    Steam:
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    If there was any way to recover old Steam conversations please let me know so I can even record the screen to prove our discussions.
  9. EduardoTLS

    EduardoTLS New User

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    I got a bigger chat history through Steam Mobile, I just don't know how I can prove it's real, but the topic has been the same for a long time.
    In this conversation I changed my BTC address: bc1qn5q97u792pxszq3zxq86xgm7k6g8fwv9smgp20
    And I also received an amount from another job (0.10 BTC) unrelated to this trade.

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    EduardoTLS New User

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    Steam:
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    More prints

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  11. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Your dates of the screenshots are ALL over the place - some of which are back thru early last year?? You even noted a change in address which makes it even more difficult if not impossible to accurately verify anything.
    I'm afraid you have to many variables do review here to many screenshots without dates at all and with so much doubt there can be no accurate review of this.
    In the future I highly suggest you make a report the same day as the event and not wait almost a year.
    Sorry but I'm going to have to decline this report - you can report them to valve instead.

    Nothing provided suggests/shows this user is or was guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Declined.

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