Evidence Provided Report: 76561198123083375 - (liberal / [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198123083375 (liberal)

Victim profile: 76561198024179572

What happened? Description:

I was just putting a trade on outpost as normal, and i put my unusual up for trade, and a guy added me, saying he would like to buy my unusual, and said with paypal, and i said, i need proof that you have some REP, so i know who can do the trade first, so he sent me a link with his rep, but i should of searched his profile for more detail, but i didn't sadly i know i know, i should of told him for more proof, (this is his proof he used, http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=26922.0)

I do wish i never did it, but what has been done, has been done

He added me from outpost, as soon as i bumped the trade, which is...suspicious indeed :/​

Provide Evidence:

The chat:
http://imgur.com/Yy5uzT8
http://imgur.com/a/cz3kC

Trade history:
http://i.imgur.com/ZZ25EJE.png


The chat (In Text):
Never tell your password to anyone.
Fluttershy <3: Hm?
liberal: hello there
liberal: interested in ur unusual
liberal: how about 85 $ for it?
Fluttershy <3: Hm, I could do it, paypal? and i don't really trust or have any proof to trust you, unless you can do anything about it
liberal: yes, paypal indeed, about the trust thing, here's my rep thread, check it out http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=26922.0 . I can go first anytime , as long as you have more trading reputation than I do =)
Fluttershy <3: Or could you do it, through steam market haha, its pretty cheap but still works
liberal: Getting this error every time I try to add money from paypal to steam We're sorry, but we can't send your payment right now
Return to merchant and try a different payment method :\
liberal: maybe the problem is that, i only added my bank account to paypal and not the credit card
liberal: :\
Fluttershy <3: That is the problem really, if you add your debit card or credit card to your paypal it should work, because paypal can't really take out money out of the bank, well straight out
Fluttershy <3: i tried it before!
liberal: I have money on my paypal account , got around 150$ , i can normally buy stuff from online stores but somewhy can't add money to steam
liberal: i can provide proof of me having money on my paypal, by taking a screenie
Fluttershy <3: Could you please, take a screenshot, it may help out a bit for me
liberal: alright , 1 second please
liberal: http://prntscr.com/2xt3uj
liberal: here
Fluttershy <3: If you can buy online stuff, why not use, tf2 store online, that i normally use, to buy some keys, that add up to my B/O? This is just an idea that can help me, and you a lot
liberal: hmm, that might be a good idea
liberal: let me think about it
Fluttershy <3: Shall i send you a link to the TF2, store?
Fluttershy <3: It helps you a lot more too if you don't trust me
Fluttershy <3: but at the same time it might not work
Fluttershy <3: but may as well give it a try
Fluttershy <3: http://store.teamfortress.com/
liberal: okay, let me try
Fluttershy <3: The thing is, it might not work
liberal: well, i'll give it a try anyways =)
Fluttershy <3: Yeah, just in case
liberal: well, it takes me to the same page
liberal: and it asks me to change a different payment method
liberal: which I don't have currently
liberal: :\
Fluttershy <3: oh :/
Fluttershy <3: So, if i give you my email, that i use for paypal, you can send the money right through?
liberal: yup , that's how it works
liberal: also, if you want me to include any note , just give me the text
liberal: most people prefer me to attach one
Fluttershy <3: If you like
liberal: okay, btw, may i see your rep thread
liberal: ?
Fluttershy <3: If you like, thats why i wanted to use a different method so it doesn't really bother you
Fluttershy <3: all i can really say, i never use the paypal wayy :/
liberal: well , by the trading rules, while money trading, one of us with less trading reputation has to go first, as you can see i am really reputable, as many people wrote on my rep thread :\\\
Fluttershy <3: yeah i know, thats why im normally afraid
liberal: well, as you can see i am no random guy, people actually trust me and my trades are always successful
Fluttershy <3: does the middleman do anything or help with this
Fluttershy <3: xD
Fluttershy <3: Yeah i know
liberal: well, he charges 20$ per transaction
liberal:
Fluttershy <3: thats a bit....cheap xD
liberal: so i think it's really unfair
liberal:
liberal: people get rich by middleman business
liberal:
Fluttershy <3: Kinda cheap though haha
liberal: lol
Fluttershy <3: Well if i say my email
Fluttershy <3: You can trade money but before that i give the unusual
Fluttershy <3: ?
liberal: If you haven't got more trading reputation than i do, as you said, we'll have to complete the trade first
Fluttershy <3: Well, can we sort everything else, like get ready to give money, like my email and money thing ready
Fluttershy <3: and then we trade?
liberal: yes, that's how it's done
liberal: just gimme your mail
liberal: so i can be ready
Fluttershy <3: [email protected]
Fluttershy <3: lol
liberal: I don't understand why would you even ask, because that's how it actually is done
liberal: okay gimme a sec
Fluttershy <3: im pretty new towards this XD
Fluttershy <3: well i done it before
Fluttershy <3: a lot actually
Fluttershy <3: and lost loads of stranges, unusuals etc xD
Fluttershy <3: thats why im scared
liberal: well, I have never done such a thing and i never will ,because that's just an unfair thing to do to people
Fluttershy <3: in a way, being a thief
Fluttershy <3: tell me when its ready and send me the....ready thing lol in a screenshot
liberal: so , you want me to take picture of the send screen?
Fluttershy <3: well hide some detail atleast yea
liberal: okay 1 sec
liberal: http://prntscr.com/2xt948
liberal: here
Fluttershy <3: okay its ready
Fluttershy <3: Trade...ehh im scared
liberal has accepted your request to trade.
liberal has accepted your request to trade.
liberal: that's strange
Fluttershy <3: as i normally do
Fluttershy <3: just wait a few minutes
Fluttershy <3: I'll trade you when ready
liberal: alright
Fluttershy <3: I swear i will not scam you, and i wouldn't because i got scammed many times, and i really hate making people said
Fluttershy <3: Sad*
liberal: well, by trading rules, we have to complete the trade first and you'll get your money in around 30 seconds after the trade
liberal has accepted your request to trade.
Fluttershy <3: if its a blank screen press F5
liberal: well, let me invite you to the trade
Fluttershy <3: okay
liberal: my internet connection is pretty fast
You have accepted the trade request from liberal.
liberal: well, i'll restart my steam, in case the problem is on my side
Fluttershy <3: okay
liberal is now Online.
liberal: i'm back
Fluttershy <3: okay, you invite trade lol
You have accepted the trade request from liberal.
liberal has accepted your request to trade.
liberal: well, do you mind sending me a trade offer?
Fluttershy <3: Wait do it again xD
liberal has accepted your request to trade.
liberal: yay
Fluttershy <3: did...did it work, its....just a white screen, but don't exit it xD
Fluttershy <3: There!!!
Fluttershy <3: has it...been 30 seconds?
liberal is now Offline.
The guys profile
http://steamcommunity.com/id/IiberaI​

I FOUND HIS REAL ACCOUNT http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998224949 OMG, Hopefully that help and sorry for caps

this is his other account details
| steamname: liberal
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:18979610
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998224949
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197998224949

So basically, someone changed name and profile picture to a guy who had alot of rep and disguised as him to scam people. And he used the rep link that the actualy liberal had as a fake one for him.

He don't have a custom url either, just for you to know

Hello! Please upload the evidence directly into the forum, using the upload file button, thanks!


Also give all your paypal history and uncropped trading history

What do you mean by PayPal history? And heres the uncropped trade history

And its still in his fake account backpack,

The agreement was for paypal?

Yes, Yes it was, as it was said in the chat we had, but, he removed me right after i said, its been 30 seconds, and i had no money off him

Then can you give your paypal history? (All of it, not recent)

Of the Payments received? Like the history from that? Sorry I'm kinda all new to this :/

If so, Here

Hes been using this account, http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998224949 to get rep, on a website, and his other account, so he can trick people to trade him, as what happened to me, he used that rep to take my unusual. but sadly for him, i found his other account, and trying to do something about it

Can you upload the screenshots found in the first post here?(The chat)

That would work!
An SR admin will review this in a while!

I would like to update the profile, as you can see, its not showing the steamrep link, so here
| steamname: liberal
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:81408823
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198123083375
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/IiberaI
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198123083375

and his Real Account

| steamname: liberal
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:18979610
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998224949
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197998224949

I don't wanna rush it...but...anyday now

For more proof regarding the individual Liberal or anyone involved with him, see.
http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561197998224949-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.69279/