Does any work actually ever get done here?

Really? reports that are ready to review for 8 months? http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198001585006-vΛ-ɱ-ų-ɛ-ʀ-ҭ-ɛ-dz.26346/#post-151384

What exactly is the point of steamrep, again?

Also well over 5000 reports are unreviewed. The mods file these as ready to review but it's not like they ever get looked it by anyone.

It would literally be the say just reject every report, cause it's not like these scammers are ever going to be tagged, anyway. Really?? Here's another report that's well over a year old now... http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198043960271-si-youngie-❤.12227/

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So many reports from 11 months ago.... Looked at once, set as ready to review and never bothered to be accepted.

Going to be straight forward: no, not recently anyway. It makes me sick inside when I see 5000 reports because I know that I am partially responsible for them not being processed. It's a damn near impossible task, but I believe this can be fixed (somehow).

Don't forget about the 13k+ people who are banned. That at least helps to protect the community. As for the present and the future of SteamRep, we'll have to find a way to overcome this.

I do not know what kind of reply you expected because this question could be easily changed to "What is the point of this thread?".

I would not even reply to your thread but it seems you forgot about one feature that is available on SteamRep profiles so I decided that I would write about it.

We have the huge backlog - that is the truth. However, at the same time SteamRep forum is a huge "database" that contains a lot of reports. It means that even if the particular user is not banned by SteamRep, assuming that the reporter formatted the report properly, you can easily check SteamRep forum and find out if the person that you would like to trade with was reported or not.

What I have just written about is Search SteamRep Forum link that can be found under Search Engine Queries.


If you wanted to say that reporting to SteamRep is pointless, I think you are wrong.
I wish you a happy new year.

It's not just reports, appeals are over a year behind as well. The 13000+ that are banned ? Some shouldn't be.

What would happen if...
all back log(a bit older then a month) got rejected.
Shutted down you're forums from any new reports being accepted.
Worked on reports at most 1 month old.

How long would a month of reports take to finish only?
Maybe what this forum needs is a clean sweep.

You say to Search SteamRep Forum, but what if the report has weak evidence and maybe some false claims. I'd hate to call someone a scammer if it's not true.

Some ideas of mine are that: they could just get as many mods and admins working on scam reports and lock off the forums so no new reports can be filled and then send the people wanting to make reports to affiliate communities with tags of their own. The lock would be for like a week or 2 to get as much of the backlog as possible. Or they could let every community with SR tags pick 2 of their most trusted admins to help moderate the reports or even just ship some of the backlog to other communities with tags for the affiliate communities to process :3.

You guys still only suggest idea's on what to do about new scam reports - what about report appeals ? You can't just auto reject all the appeals... perhaps reject new reports for a period, and work on clearing existing reports AND appeals? And then begin accepting reports again at a manageable rate for the number of staff.

You guys still only suggest idea's on what to do about new scam reports - what about report appeals ? You can't just auto reject all the appeals... perhaps reject new reports for a period, and work on clearing existing reports AND appeals? And then begin accepting reports again at a manageable rate for the number of staff.

I think the solution is pretty obvious... The administration needs to expand, and do that FAST. That is the only way to keep up with the flood of reports. Can't have the same small group processing all these reports. There have been mod applications from people that look well qualified, and they've gone unprocessed as well. Prioritize getting more mods/admins, then the rest will fall in place. My 2 cents.

And I appreciate it, but I think it's just wrong that people who scammed maybe a craft hat or two or a couple of keys 2-3 years ago are left with permanent, unappealable tags, due to the nature of SteamREP at this point, while people who are scamming unusuals right NOW, are getting away free with months and months to sell their items.

Also most new players have no clue about the "search function." If they see the steamrep status as clean, then they will fall for the scam, either way.

A new player isn't even going to consider to look for a button that searches for current reports, hence why we get so many users reported multiple times for successful scams.

Is there anyway we could distribute a large amount of these reports for community associates to take, perhaps? Give each community say 200-300 reports to accept/reject within 1 month, they can use their own community policies to judge the posts right here on SteamREP and then they get tagged with a scammer tag or caution tag or no tag at all (if the post is rejected). It would reduce a large amount of the backup.

The issue with adding staff is that they go for a long and thorough process to ensure they are the quality that SR needs. The only thing worse than an inactive admin is a corrupt one.


There's a lot of problems, I won't deny that, and it's not my place to give answers/thoughts on them. But I will say this, this thread is going to go one of two ways.

1. It is a fruitful discussion with ideas, comments and is absent of rants & insults.
2. It's full of rants and insults.

If it starts to go towards 2, I'm just going to lock it. And I'm sure any of the other staff feel the same way. We're open to suggestion, but I don't believe that people need to insult us about problems of which we are quite aware.

Don't think you understood my point at all...

The people who may deserve to be untagged because they made a small mistake in scamming someone out of a hat, but later realized the mistake and refunded aren't getting their appeals.

On the other hand the people who are scamming huge amounts, and are still scamming today, due to the lack of a scammer tag.

Lemme do a diagram to simplify it

Person A....

Scams a craft hat -> is tagged -> realizes his mistake -> returns the scammed hat -> waits 1 years to appeal -> Appeals -> Is now stuck waiting forever in a constantly increasing appellant pool


Person B

Scams an Unusual Hat -> is reported -> 3 months later realizes he isn't getting tagged -> scams another unusual -> scams another unusual, etc,etc.

It was said multiple times... There is no such status. If someone looks at a scooter but sees a car... I cannot do much about it other than letting this person know that it is a scooter.

I am aware of the fact that it is not the perfect example to reflect the problem because one is probably caused by psychological issues and the other one is probably caused by lack of understanding but there is a some kind of analogy because both people see things as different from what they really are.

This is a really important thing to understand the difference and to not confuse 'No special reputation' status with 'Clean' status that does not exist.

Well you and I and everyone who has commented on this thread so far knows that, but the people who are randomly added by scammers attempting to paypal scam them do not, know that. Many just think no tag = legitimate... Or rather not illegitimate

Sounds like a new tag needs to be invented. "Under Investigation"
If a report looks decent enough that they are most likely a scammer, a mod can add this tag to a user.
There should be a search Link directly under that tag for the user themselves to decide if something is fishy about that report or not.

That would all come down to trust, currently the only individuals who can change a status of a user's profile on SR are SR Admins, Super Community Admins (from Associate Communities) and Valve (as trade bans/probation show up).

While the idea itself seems plausible, I don't believe it would actually be put into place.

I believe he suggested the new tag to prevent people from being confused, although if the evidence is thorough a caution should suffice.

Overall, I'm not sure if quick fixes/band aids for the larger problem is a good thing.