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Declined Report: 76561198132182386 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

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  1. ad infinitum

    ad infinitum New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198132182386

    Victim profile: 76561198054642670

    What happened? Description:
    The user added me and offered a cash payment over paypal for my Frostbite Brain Bucket. After chatting back and fourth for a little while we eventually agreed I would go first. It was incredibly late at the time, 3am or so for me, and I am also short on cash so made a few poor judgement decision in hindsight.
    After the offer had been accepted, the user in question blocked me and traded back items to a friend who had helped to fake a +trust on backpack.tf and paypal transaction​

    Provide Evidence:

    [2:40 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Hey, how can I help?
    ?

    [2:43 AM]
    loser:
    hey sorry. i was interested in the brain bucket and was wondering if ud do paypal?

    [2:43 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    How much would you be paying?

    [2:44 AM]
    loser:
    does 400 usd sound good?

    [2:45 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    it does, a little sceptical of chargeback with that kind of value, any chance you could buy it off http://marketplace.tf if I list it there, I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure you can use paypal there

    [2:46 AM]
    loser:
    i cant use marketplace. they wont let me make purchases unless i put in an id and tax info. the latter of which i do not have
    my screenshot wont send
    but i do have trust for cash trades
    loser's Trust
    3 positive ratings,
    0 negative ratings.

    https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198132182386

    [2:47 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    I saw, afraid those are low value cash trades though

    [2:49 AM]
    loser:
    the top one was quite expensive. was the taunts + unu gibus + aussie minigun. wsa around 200
    was*

    [2:49 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    ah okay
    hmm I was actually looking to cash out on paypal soon to be honest so I think I could do that.
    also my bad there, didn't think taunts and some other good would've been high value - sorry about that

    [2:51 AM]
    loser:
    yeah its np. was the aussie minigun that helped crank up the price. dude like didnt specify

    [2:56 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    aha yeah i see that now looking at trade historys

    [2:58 AM]
    loser:
    yeah its np

    [3:02 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Are you able to go through with this transaction now?

    [3:02 AM]
    loser:
    yeah im ready when u are

    [3:03 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Get your very own PayPal.Me link
    Post it. Text it. Tag it. Share it. Shout it. And let your friends pay you back in a tap or two. Grab your PayPal.Me link today.
    https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/lucamaxwellscott

    if you want to send the trade offer on steam too that would be appreciated. Also if it's not too much of a problem I'd rather you went first.

    [3:04 AM]
    loser:
    do u mind sending the trade offer first? just bc i got the rep?

    [3:05 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    I would rather not, in all fairness I have around 4k in tf2 items. If I scammed someone it would make cashing out and trading in general increadibly difficult
    if you like you can send half now, half after you receive the item

    [3:08 AM]
    loser:
    ik but the same goes for me. im planning on doing more cash trades so i dont have the ability to do a one and done ya know?

    [3:11 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    again i'll suggest half now, half afterwards if you're sceptical. paypal chargeback on things like this always favours the sender and if I don't have any proof I sent you any good it will be very difficult for me to refute it in the case I scam you
    *goods

    [3:15 AM]
    loser:
    this is always the hardest part. ive had trouble in the past with paypal and this. 200 is a lot though so thats the scary part. i might just be paranoid. idk i have the rep to back it up

    [3:18 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    this is a 10 year old steam account and I have been trading on it for I think 3 years now. It would be a very stupid move for me to scam you and ruin my ability to cash out the rest of my inventory. I understand 200 is a lot but I sincerely have no intention to scam you. This is my first time doing a direct paypal transaction instead of using http://marketplace.tf so i'm equally nervous about being ripped off tbhIf it would make you more comfortable I could do 150 upfront and, 250 afterwards
    I also understand I have some comments calling me a scammer on my profile, to ease your mind those are from friends I've known for a long time and I left them there instead of deleting them because I thought it was funny lmao

    [3:26 AM]
    loser:
    i get that. i wish i could use marketplace but it seriously wont let me. but idk my account is 8 years old and ive been trading for a long time. cashed out a long time ago. idk my biggest concern is that u can like still scam me then cashout on marketplace so its like u get away scott free
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....392/01B30F00DE1AB2A487314B46AE6F13DDFAC51152/

    i always get this message when i wanna buy ♥♥♥♥ its so dumb
    but like idk if neither of us are willing to make the sacrifice to go first then we might have to call it off

    [3:26 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    players marked as scammers get blacklisted from sites like http://backpack.tf http://marketplace.tf and
    TF2 Trading, Dota Trading, CS:GO Trading, Steam Trading and more! - Bazaar.tf
    http://bazaar.tf

    also f✿✿✿ it idk a loss would suck but it wouldn't be the end of the world
    I can go first
    been tight on cash lately
    if a send a trade offer we're all good right?

    [3:28 AM]
    loser:
    yeah thatd help just bc im good at living up to my name
    but idk the problem with backpack is if u like send a negative rep they dont do much about it other than it existing. u dont get banned
    Tattsyrup's TF2 Backpack
    Tattsyrup has about items in their TF2
    backpack, with an estimated value of 3.45 ref, $0.0776.
    View Tattsyrup's backpack on backpack.tf.

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198179934902

    like this dude
    he scammed me years ago and nothing bad happened

    [3:30 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    sweet, also +trust eachother afterwards right, I know it's a given but would seriously help when it comes to cashing out the rest of my stuff lel.Can get a steamrep ban if you have evidence, need screenshots and sufficient stuff - should also be able to open a report with admins on backpack.tf. but i getcha, I was scammed when I was like 12-13 and nothing happened. Granted it was nothing compared to what I have now but it was still one of the worst feelings in the world lol
    You sent loser a new trade offerView trade offer
    aight this better not come back to bite me in the ass

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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I see no formal agreement here anywhere.
    Please provide that entire agreement and the chat logs that show the payment method/information.
  3. ad infinitum

    ad infinitum New User

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    I have provided the entire chatlog in screenshots

    Additionally the user faked + trust and on backpack.tf and faked a previous transaction they claimed was done through paypal
    https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198132182386 it's the most recent +trust
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132182386#!/compare/1655683200/1655856000
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160204240#!/compare/1655769600/1655856000

    .
    Agreement here:
    https://forums.steamrep.com/attachments/screenshot-191-png.798818/
    [2:44 AM]
    loser:
    does 400 usd sound good?

    [2:45 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    it does, a little sceptical of chargeback with that kind of value, any chance you could buy it off http://marketplace.tf if I list it there, I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure you can use paypal there



    and then I linked my paypal.me here as a way they could pay:
    https://forums.steamrep.com/attachments/screenshot-189-png.798816/

    [3:02 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Are you able to go through with this transaction now?

    [3:02 AM]
    loser:
    yeah im ready when u are

    [3:03 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Get your very own PayPal.Me link
    Post it. Text it. Tag it. Share it. Shout it. And let your friends pay you back in a tap or two. Grab your PayPal.Me link today.
    https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/lucamaxwellscott

    if you want to send the trade offer on steam too that would be appreciated. Also if it's not too much of a problem I'd rather you went first.
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  4. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Where is the paypal address showing on that screenshot? Your posting of text does not help - it must show the address of what you were using for the payment method on the screenshot.
  5. ad infinitum

    ad infinitum New User

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    My bad, here is a better screenshot, the link is to my paypal.me
    Is there anything else I need to provide? Afraid I want to wrap this up asap and take a break from trading for a little while. It was definitely avoidable, but it happened regardless and I would like it to be over as quickly as possible.

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  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Please provide a full screen shot of your Trade Inventory History showing for sure the trade in question(NOT TRADE OFFER!!)- open this with a web browser, move your mouse over the users name in question so it shows up the hypertext popup URL at the bottom of the screen - take the screen shot DO NOT edit it in anyway and upload. Also need a screen shot of your Paypal ACTIVITY (not Summary) for several days beginning with the date before this trade..full screen DO NOT edit this shot in anyway. Upload HERE…NOT imgur, NOT gyazo or any other 3rd party hosting site!
    Also one screenshot of your paypal settings clearly showing the email in question that you have associated with the account. This screenshot will be hidden once posted the other two will not.

    Also please review this screenshot guide should you require assistance:

    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You have 48hours to provide what was requested
  8. ad infinitum

    ad infinitum New User

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    Sorry for the late response, I had a particularly busy weekend.
    I've hidden my address on the screenshot with my email for privacy reasons, I hope that is okay.

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  9. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I told you I would hide that last screenshot once submitted - you have to submit it unedited per policy with regards to screenshots.
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    ad infinitum New User

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    My bad.
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    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 26, 2022
  11. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Ok now screenshot friend activity where it shows you and this user were friends at some point - I'm not able to determine this.
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    ad infinitum New User

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    I'm sorry but where do I find this?
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You have 24hours to follow up
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    ad infinitum New User

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    I'm assuming you're asking for a screenshot of the activity page that shows this user added me. I'm afraid I can't find this, they've since blocked me and removed me from their friends list.
    Is there something else I can use instead?
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Since you replied and confirmed you can not produce evidence that verifies identity to the accused we must go with reasonable doubt that you could be reporting someone that may have been impersonated..we may never know. This often happens but we must be 100% sure of the user being accused to be fair to them and anyone else we review reports for.
    Thus the report is Declined on those grounds of not being able to 100% conclude this is the correct user that should be reported.
    In the future it is best to obtain the screenshot requested but also you can do other things such as history back up with SR profile viewing, full screenshot of the users profile WHILE you are friends also shows this however again you do not have them.
    This user isn't or wasn't found guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Declined.
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  16. ad infinitum

    ad infinitum New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198132182386

    Victim profile: 76561198054642670

    What happened? Description:
    The user added me claiming they could pay 400 (I assume usd) over paypal for my Frostbite Brain Bucket. After back and fourth I eventually went first as at the time it seemed they had positive bp.tf trust from a previous paypal transaction. It was around 3am when this happened and I am short on cash so I will admit I didn't make the best judgement call. Aditionally, on further inspection the bp.tf trust and previous transaction appears to be fake as the user later traded back the items to an individual on their friends list.​

    Provide Evidence:
    I do not mean to be rude, but if you check the users steam inventory/profile, their backpack.tf history and the item history itself, it becomes rather apparent that this user was not impersonated.
    I am sorry I was unable to provide exactly what was asked but the user had already removed me from their friends list after I was scammed. Additionally, the historical data this site provides as I was previously suggested to provide as falsification for my claim does not cover the period of time in which this user was on my friends list.
    I have also previously provided proof surrounding my PayPal account, but can repost screenshots if necessary.

    Item history of the Frostbite Brain Bucket and the item leaving my inventory/entering the inventory of the accused.
    https://backpack.tf/item/4173106202
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132182386#!/compare/1655942400/1656028800
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054642670#!/compare/1655510400/1656028800

    Fake backpack.tf trust of a previous PayPal transaction and tradeback of items including the Australium Minigun the accused claimed to have previously purchased in the screenshots of the chat.
    https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198132182386
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132182386#!/compare/1655942400/1656028800
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160204240#!/compare/1655856000/1656028800

    Attached to this are past screenshots from the declined report and some new ones. If there is anything else I can provide please let me know, but this really should be enough to verify the identity of the accused.​

    [2:40 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Hey, how can I help?
    ?

    [2:43 AM]
    loser:
    hey sorry. i was interested in the brain bucket and was wondering if ud do paypal?

    [2:43 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    How much would you be paying?

    [2:44 AM]
    loser:
    does 400 usd sound good?

    [2:45 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    it does, a little sceptical of chargeback with that kind of value, any chance you could buy it off http://marketplace.tf if I list it there, I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure you can use paypal there

    [2:46 AM]
    loser:
    i cant use marketplace. they wont let me make purchases unless i put in an id and tax info. the latter of which i do not have
    my screenshot wont send
    but i do have trust for cash trades
    loser's Trust
    3 positive ratings,
    0 negative ratings.

    https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198132182386

    [2:47 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    I saw, afraid those are low value cash trades though

    [2:49 AM]
    loser:
    the top one was quite expensive. was the taunts + unu gibus + aussie minigun. wsa around 200
    was*

    [2:49 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    ah okay
    hmm I was actually looking to cash out on paypal soon to be honest so I think I could do that.
    also my bad there, didn't think taunts and some other good would've been high value - sorry about that

    [2:51 AM]
    loser:
    yeah its np. was the aussie minigun that helped crank up the price. dude like didnt specify

    [2:56 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    aha yeah i see that now looking at trade historys

    [2:58 AM]
    loser:
    yeah its np

    [3:02 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Are you able to go through with this transaction now?

    [3:02 AM]
    loser:
    yeah im ready when u are

    [3:03 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    Get your very own PayPal.Me link
    Post it. Text it. Tag it. Share it. Shout it. And let your friends pay you back in a tap or two. Grab your PayPal.Me link today.
    https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/lucamaxwellscott

    if you want to send the trade offer on steam too that would be appreciated. Also if it's not too much of a problem I'd rather you went first.

    [3:04 AM]
    loser:
    do u mind sending the trade offer first? just bc i got the rep?

    [3:05 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    I would rather not, in all fairness I have around 4k in tf2 items. If I scammed someone it would make cashing out and trading in general increadibly difficult
    if you like you can send half now, half after you receive the item

    [3:08 AM]
    loser:
    ik but the same goes for me. im planning on doing more cash trades so i dont have the ability to do a one and done ya know?

    [3:11 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    again i'll suggest half now, half afterwards if you're sceptical. paypal chargeback on things like this always favours the sender and if I don't have any proof I sent you any good it will be very difficult for me to refute it in the case I scam you
    *goods

    [3:15 AM]
    loser:
    this is always the hardest part. ive had trouble in the past with paypal and this. 200 is a lot though so thats the scary part. i might just be paranoid. idk i have the rep to back it up

    [3:18 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    this is a 10 year old steam account and I have been trading on it for I think 3 years now. It would be a very stupid move for me to scam you and ruin my ability to cash out the rest of my inventory. I understand 200 is a lot but I sincerely have no intention to scam you. This is my first time doing a direct paypal transaction instead of using http://marketplace.tf so i'm equally nervous about being ripped off tbhIf it would make you more comfortable I could do 150 upfront and, 250 afterwards
    I also understand I have some comments calling me a scammer on my profile, to ease your mind those are from friends I've known for a long time and I left them there instead of deleting them because I thought it was funny lmao

    [3:26 AM]
    loser:
    i get that. i wish i could use marketplace but it seriously wont let me. but idk my account is 8 years old and ive been trading for a long time. cashed out a long time ago. idk my biggest concern is that u can like still scam me then cashout on marketplace so its like u get away scott free
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....392/01B30F00DE1AB2A487314B46AE6F13DDFAC51152/

    i always get this message when i wanna buy ♥♥♥♥ its so dumb
    but like idk if neither of us are willing to make the sacrifice to go first then we might have to call it off

    [3:26 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    players marked as scammers get blacklisted from sites like http://backpack.tf http://marketplace.tf and
    TF2 Trading, Dota Trading, CS:GO Trading, Steam Trading and more! - Bazaar.tf
    http://bazaar.tf

    also f✿✿✿ it idk a loss would suck but it wouldn't be the end of the world
    I can go first
    been tight on cash lately
    if a send a trade offer we're all good right?

    [3:28 AM]
    loser:
    yeah thatd help just bc im good at living up to my name
    but idk the problem with backpack is if u like send a negative rep they dont do much about it other than it existing. u dont get banned
    Tattsyrup's TF2 Backpack
    Tattsyrup has about items in their TF2
    backpack, with an estimated value of 3.45 ref, $0.0776.
    View Tattsyrup's backpack on backpack.tf.

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198179934902

    like this dude
    he scammed me years ago and nothing bad happened

    [3:30 AM]
    p✿✿✿✿ b✿✿✿✿ ad infinitum:
    sweet, also +trust eachother afterwards right, I know it's a given but would seriously help when it comes to cashing out the rest of my stuff lel.Can get a steamrep ban if you have evidence, need screenshots and sufficient stuff - should also be able to open a report with admins on backpack.tf. but i getcha, I was scammed when I was like 12-13 and nothing happened. Granted it was nothing compared to what I have now but it was still one of the worst feelings in the world lol
    You sent loser a new trade offerView trade offer
    aight this better not come back to bite me in the ass

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  17. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I'm sorry but you are unable to verify identity - even what you provided this time doesn't prove that.
    I'm declining and merging with previous since this isn't changing the situation.
    Unless you can provided a screenshot verifying identity to the user via ID64 SteamID not names we can not review this.
    Please do not resubmit it unless you have that which again in this case you do not.
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    ad infinitum New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198132182386

    Victim profile: 76561198054642670

    What happened? Description:
    I'm so sorry to do this for a third time, but I just found a screenshot I had overlooked on my laptop of them on my friends list before I was blocked, I hope this suffices. The user added me claiming they could pay 400 (I assume usd) over paypal for my Frostbite Brain Bucket. After back and fourth I eventually went first as at the time it seemed they had positive bp.tf trust from a previous paypal transaction. It was around 3am when this happened and I am short on cash so I will admit I didn't make the best judgement call. Aditionally, on further inspection the bp.tf trust and previous transaction appears to be fake as the user later traded back the items to an individual on their friends list.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Attached is a screenshot of the user on my friends list moments before they blocked and removed me. Only just checked my laptop screenshots so I apologize for having caused such a fuss over this earlier.
    Previous report that was closed is linked below to save me the hassle of reuploading all the past screenshots for this.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads...tf2-team-fortress-2-items.198430/#post-541012

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Ok again nothing provided absolutely NO change from the previous.
    This is a FINAL decision - do NOT resubmit this report.
    It is Declined on the very reason on the previous report which is being merged with it to avoid spam.

    again do NOT resubmit this report - you can report them to Valve instead!
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