Archived Report: 76561198191546129 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Item Fraud] Quick-switch trade scam or attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198191546129

Victim profile: 76561198220410799

What happened? Description:

First of all he messaged me about trading my items, which I wanted to trade. Then he proceed to tell me that he wants to do it as a "safe trade" what involved second guy that was supposed to check my items if they're not stolen or fake. I've added that person (I don't have his steam profile of messages but his name was something like Mr. Jast and claimed that he works for Valve and he's inventory checker or whatever) who added me with accused person into group chat (I don't have that group chat convo too). Then they both proceed to convince me to send the second guy the items by saying that the Trade Offer will be on Pending with me having to accept the trade on my end (this is where i knew something is fishy). Then I proceed to argue with both of them and hesistate to do as they want. This is where i've copied last parts of my convo with the second guy Mr. Jast to my friend on facebook and asked him what he thinks and after several minutes I've decided not to go into this offer. This is where some other guy called Lugin added me and started talking about the same offer the first guy gave me (I didn't think this is fishy because these were like my only more valuable items and I've got many people asking me to trade them). Few minutes passed and first guy asked me if I want to carry on with the trade with me needing only to put my items on OPSkins for him to see if they're legit. This is where I've got tricked. He told me to put them both on sale without actually putting them on the site, just making the offer for 99999$ so nobody can buy it. I've done that. Then he told me to check my trade offers that the OPSkins bot will deposit the items. Me thinking it's actual OPSkins bot I've automatically accepted the trade without further inspecting if the bot is legit and made the trade. After few minutes I've noticed that there are no skins on the site so I've checked the trade offer and the bot and found out that it's not actual OPSkins bot and realized that I've got tricked. I've checked the inventory of that bot (or profile) and my items were there and dissapeared after few mins (Note that all of these guys inventories were private the time I'm writing this report). I've confronted the first guy but he never answered since. Then I've carried on talking to Lugin as he seemed surprised that my items are not available no more as I didn't have them anymore. I've carried on talking to Lugin to find out that he might be the scammer or somehow connected to the scammer. He also provided me with the scammer's account and account of someone else who later on sent me Trade Offer trying to get my other less valuable items. I'm pretty sure it was Flow or Jast who got ahold of my items since Flow was the only one who knew what I was doing at the moment.​

Provide Evidence:

This is the profile that received my items (As shown on screenshot his past nickname contains the nickname of the second guy who was firstly involved): http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198386852429​

Conversation with Mr.Jast:
11:14 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: If you decided to cancel this transcation both of your account will be implemented a permanent trade ban and your account will be locked by the Valve. 11:15 - zephh_: I want to see you trade ban me for nothing 11:18 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: Alright Hold on. I will trade banned you and you cant open again your account since it will be locked. 11:18 - zephh_: okay i'm waiting
11:18 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: Alright Hold on. I will trade banned you and you cant open again your account since it will be locked. 11:18 - zephh_: okay i'm waiting 11:25 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: Just enjot your day trader. 11:26 - zephh_: I still can't see any trade ban on my profile what's the matter 11:26 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: I dont have the authority to ban you.
11:27 - zephh_: this is really pathetic to be honest with you
11:27 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: Sorry trader.
11:28 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™ is now Offline.

Conversation with Flow:
Never tell your password to anyone.
10:26 - Flow: Okay
10:26 - Flow: I am back
10:26 - Flow: help me add him http://steamcommunity.com/id/Jast-0935/
10:26 - Flow: he will help us scan our both knife
10:27 - Flow: If he accept you tell him to accept me. and scan our knife.
10:28 - Flow: hello?
10:28 - zephh_: sec
10:28 - Flow: okay
10:28 - zephh_: i've messaged the guy
10:28 - Flow: okay
10:29 - zephh_: 10:29 - Mr.Jast | TheGentleman™: Alright,I got him.Let me know if both of you are ready into a group chat.
10:29 - Flow: yes I am ready
10:31 - Flow: response man
10:31 - zephh_: i got you
10:31 - Flow: okY
10:31 - Flow: OKAY
10:32 - Flow: yes
10:40 - Flow: I am done man
10:49 - zephh_: Okay listen
10:49 - zephh_: I'm not giving this guy my knife for nothing
10:49 - zephh_: I don't know you and I don't know him either
10:49 - zephh_: If you want to trade, let's just do it old way
10:49 - Flow: Just like what I did man.
10:50 - zephh_: Yes but how do I know you're not partnered up with him though
10:51 - Flow: cause He is an steam assistant
10:51 - Flow: you can see in his profile
10:51 - zephh_: never heard of anyone like that
10:51 - Flow: just to have a safe trade with me.
10:51 - Flow: just trust me.
10:51 - zephh_: also his profile is old like 1 year even though he claims he's doing this for years
10:51 - zephh_: so
10:52 - Flow: I can see he is legit
10:52 - Flow: just trust me man.
10:58 - zephh_: there is no way im even sending a trade offer for nothing
10:58 - Flow: Man just a pending offer like mine
11:00 - Flow: man? do you want karambit man for your ak and your knife?
11:00 - Flow: I will cancel my M9 case hardened first.
11:01 - zephh_: I'm down but i'm simply not comfortable doing it this way
11:01 - Flow: Just trust me man.
11:01 - zephh_: How do I trust you I don't even know you
11:02 - Flow: ask him for a screenshot of my offer to my karambit doppler.
11:03 - zephh_: screenshot wouldn't be any good
11:04 - zephh_: coz you still can ask him to get it back and tell him to keep my knife or whatever
11:04 - Flow: no man
11:04 - Flow: why would i do that ?
11:04 - zephh_: because there are people called scammers if you ever heard of the term
11:05 - zephh_: and being cautious is the best way NOT to get scammed
11:05 - Flow: yes man
11:05 - zephh_: so
11:05 - Flow: I get scammed also thats why I am doing this.
11:05 - Flow: and I dont want to get trade banned to.
11:05 - Flow: I am sending karambit doppler now.
11:06 - zephh_: listen the only way i'm trading is directly the old way
11:06 - zephh_: period
11:07 - zephh_: i'm really amused he took all that time to write down that copypasta but i don't trust him still
11:07 - Flow: i just want to have a safe trade man.
11:07 - Flow: dont worry
11:07 - Flow: you can trust me here.
11:07 - zephh_: i think the trading system is safe enough already
11:08 - Flow: I got scammed by that fake items man
11:08 - zephh_: i can inspect the knife for you on opskins live on stream or whatever but im not giving away my thing for free
11:08 - Flow: thats why I am doing this.
11:08 - Flow: no man. just a Pending offer only
11:09 - zephh_: yes but he said i need to accept it so it's not safe at all
11:10 - Flow: Yes just like what I did.
11:18 - Flow: man?
11:18 - Flow: what is he doing?
11:18 - Flow: man??
11:18 - Flow: man?
11:19 - zephh_: idk
11:19 - zephh_: he's trying to be scary or whatever
11:19 - Flow: Please man.
11:20 - Flow: I dont want to get banned. Please man
11:20 - zephh_: dont worry he's going to "ban" only me
11:20 - Flow: He said both of you.
11:21 - zephh_: sorry dawg there is nothing more i can do for ya
11:21 - Flow: please man. just cooperate I will give you free knife but please dont make my account trade banned
11:21 - Flow: karambit sapphire
11:22 - Flow: please my whole inventory will be banned this is my savings
11:23 - zephh_: listen he's not going to do anything okay
11:24 - Flow: I am crying now
11:24 - zephh_: im pretty sure you both know each other so let your friend know that anyone who owns few pairs of braincells isn't going to get baited like this
11:25 - Flow: what man?
11:25 - zephh_: also i've reported his profile with the whole convo but that doesn't matter since his profile isn't really worth anything
11:26 - Flow: thank you man. i just want to have a safe trade with you.
11:26 - Flow: okay
11:26 - zephh_: but this isn't safe at all
11:27 - Flow: I want to see if your knife is visible in opskins.
11:27 - Flow: but before that can I get your trade link url man?
11:29 - zephh_: it's on my profile
11:29 - Flow: do you know how to post your ak and knife to opskins man?
11:30 - zephh_: that guy wasn't convincing at all
11:31 - Flow: I cancel my offer
11:31 - zephh_: you better did
11:32 - Flow: do you know how to post your ak and your knife to opskins man?
11:32 - Flow: so that I can see if your ak and knife is real.
11:32 - zephh_: i'm going to deposit them both there
11:33 - Flow: may I have your trade link url man?
11:33 - zephh_: it's literally in the middle of my profile but sure
11:33 - zephh_: https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=260145071&token=PzyJVUdU
11:35 - Flow: thank you man.
11:36 - Flow: can you post your ak and you knife at the same time in opskins man? I want to see they are all safe for trading and marketable. I will just guide you. okay?
11:36 - zephh_: do it
11:37 - Flow: did you?
11:37 - zephh_: sec
11:37 - Flow: Go to opskins site.
11:40 - zephh_: so i got them deposited on the site
11:40 - Flow: at the same time?
11:40 - zephh_: yea
11:41 - Flow: wait
11:41 - Flow: get it again.
11:41 - zephh_: what
11:41 - Flow: I want to see the whole process
11:41 - zephh_: oh really
11:41 - Flow: yes
11:41 - Flow: I want to see if your not trolling me.
11:41 - zephh_: you added me to trade why tf would i troll you
11:42 - zephh_: like
11:42 - Flow: yes
11:42 - Flow: so get them again I want to see them in your inventory first.
11:44 - Flow: Did you get your knife and Ak now?
11:44 - Flow: Hello?
11:45 - zephh_: yes i did
11:46 - Flow: go to opskins now.
11:47 - Flow: Can you click your Knife and Ak and set it on 9999$ so that no one can buy it. And we can check if its all marketable. And click add to sale queue. Just ADD TO QUEUE so that it will be post on the site. Okay? Dont deposit it yet , I want to see if your knife and Ak will be posted.
11:47 - Flow: just tell me if you click add to sale.
11:48 - Flow: hello?
11:48 - zephh_: yea sec
11:49 - Flow: just click your Knife and Ak and set it on 9999$ so that no one can buy it. And we can check if its all marketable. And click add to sale queue. Just ADD TO QUEUE so that it will be post on the site. Okay? Dont deposit it yet , I want to see if your knife and Ak will be posted.
11:49 - Flow: okay?
11:49 - zephh_: done
11:49 - Flow: okay
11:49 - Flow: did you click add to sale queue?
11:49 - zephh_: they're both for 99 999$
11:50 - zephh_: ye
11:50 - Flow: okay
11:50 - Flow: go back to your steam account and look in your notification if opskins notify you for something.
11:50 - Flow: just that Add to sale so that I can see it posted.
11:51 - Flow: And , accept it and go back to opskins site.
to see it is posted.
11:55 - zephh_: you did it didn't you
11:58 - zephh_: listen man
11:58 - zephh_: can i get them back so we can trade them normally or
12:02 - zephh_: alright well enjoy them
12:04 - zephh_: c'mon man i know you got them
12:04 - zephh_: be cool about it atleast

Conversation with Lugin:
Never tell your password to anyone.
10:58 - zephh_: what for
10:59 - Lugin: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198263944054/inventory/
10:59 - Lugin: choose ?
10:59 - Lugin: what do you want ?
11:00 - zephh_: let me see
11:02 - zephh_: i'd trade my knife for the bayo slaughter
12:07 - Lugin: hello ?
12:07 - zephh_: sup
12:07 - Lugin: i can't see your knife ?
12:07 - zephh_: yeah
12:07 - Lugin: why ?
12:07 - zephh_: some other guy did it before you
12:07 - Lugin: wtf
12:08 - zephh_: yeah
12:08 - zephh_: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198191546129/ this guy scammed me
12:08 - Lugin: we have a deal already.
12:08 - Lugin: why ?
12:08 - zephh_: idk ask him
12:08 - zephh_: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198191546129/ there he is
12:08 - zephh_: he's got my items
12:09 - Lugin: wtf
12:09 - zephh_: yea
12:09 - Lugin: how you he got it ?
12:09 - Lugin: how did you trade it ?
12:10 - zephh_: he tricked me into believing his second account called OPSkins bot is actual OPSkins bot and I didn't check it
12:10 - Lugin: wtf
12:10 - zephh_: thing is i've never really used OPSkins so I didn't know
12:10 - Lugin: don't trust any opskins bot
12:10 - Lugin: you trust to VALVE Employee
12:10 - Lugin: the Steam Verifier
12:11 - zephh_: well i've got no reason to do so now
12:11 - zephh_: he's probably thinking how f✿✿✿✿✿✿ clever he is by now
12:12 - zephh_: or idk what was it but probably this Flow guy
12:12 - Lugin: i have good offer to you but you got scammed?
12:12 - Lugin: ★ Flip Knife | Fade
12:12 - Lugin: wtf
12:12 - Lugin: for your knife
12:13 - zephh_: yes i've told you there was guy faster before you
12:13 - Lugin: and i got scammed already with bugged items.
12:13 - Lugin: i don't want to trade anymore
12:14 - zephh_: ask this Flow guy maybe he'll trade them to you
12:14 - zephh_: or you're Flow and you're just messing around
12:14 - Lugin: are you accusing me here?
12:15 - zephh_: you kinda type like he did and also you added me the same time I was talking to him so
12:15 - zephh_: if it's you: gj, you got me
12:17 - Lugin: i don't want to talk to much to you sorry.
12:17 - Lugin: first of all i am good and legit trader.
12:17 - zephh_: yeah that's what he said too
12:18 - Lugin: that not my friend.
12:18 - zephh_: yeah im just pointing out facts
12:19 - Lugin: You will ask the VALVE Employee if i am scammer.
12:19 - Lugin: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SteamMysterios-020/
12:19 - zephh_: Warning: User Reported for Fraud
12:20 - Lugin: what?
12:20 - zephh_: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198026284250
12:20 - zephh_: i've opened his profile on steamrep
12:20 - Lugin: wtf
12:20 - Lugin: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198191546129/
12:20 - Lugin: how about this guy?
12:20 - zephh_: yes that's the guy who scammed me
12:21 - Lugin: btw i have smurf account.
12:21 - zephh_: i already can tell it's you man
12:22 - Lugin: first of all thats not my account
12:23 - zephh_: you two type like the same person basically
12:23 - zephh_: also he's not responding what means he's not on his account probably
12:23 - zephh_: or he's too big of a p✿✿✿✿ to admit he scammed me
12:24 - zephh_: also he unfriended me just now
12:24 - Lugin: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Swizmoni-00
12:24 - Lugin: here
12:24 - Lugin: my other account.
12:25 - zephh_: you've sent me some random ass account how tf do i know it's really your main/smurf
12:25 - Lugin: add
12:26 - zephh_: why would i add more people mf i don't have anything to trade anymore
12:26 - Lugin: ok
12:26 - Lugin: sorry i feel you bro.
12:27 - zephh_: just tell him it's not nice to take advantage of people like this
12:28 - Lugin: btw are you trading your skins ?
12:28 - Lugin: So that i can feel you alright?
12:29 - Lugin: still there ?
12:29 - zephh_: okay so
12:29 - zephh_: you've linked me this Herbob cs.money skinsjar.com's profile right
12:29 - Lugin: yes
12:29 - zephh_: well guess what
12:29 - Lugin: I countering offer only..
12:30 - Lugin: btw what flow offering on you?
12:30 - zephh_: He offered me M9 Case Hardened for my knife
12:30 - zephh_: and Karambit (don't remember which one) for knife and ak
12:30 - Lugin: let me check on my inventory.
12:31 - Lugin: i have only ★ Karambit | Case Hardened
12:31 - Lugin: Exterior: Well-Worn
12:32 - zephh_: Anyways
12:33 - zephh_: If you're this Flow guy by any chance or if you know him please let him know that this isn't really nice
12:33 - Lugin: i don't know him.
12:33 - zephh_: I mean I made that profit I've bought these for by opening gloves from like 4th case i've ever opened so
12:34 - zephh_: But it's not nice to trick people like this
12:34 - Lugin: yes
12:34 - zephh_: I would have traded with him legit whatever he wanted but this isn't simply what you do to people
12:35 - zephh_: I really hope you enjoy these stupid skins
12:35 - zephh_: People like you are the reason why this entire cs:go scene is f✿✿✿✿✿✿ garbage
12:37 - zephh_: I've just wanted to have few nice skins I would be proud of
12:38 - zephh_: I feel bad for you if you really need to do all this just to trick people into sending you virtual items for a game that is already slowly on a descend
12:46 - zephh_: If you really feel bad for me give me back atleast my damn knife for gods sake
12:49 - Lugin: sorry
12:49 - Lugin: i eat my lunch.
12:55 - Lugin is now Offline.

Okay so here's the deal again. Flow is most likely to be owner of the fake OPSkins bot I've send my stuff because I gave him my trade link and the trade offer came exactly when he told me to check my trade offers. Also I suspect that both of these accounts are owned by this Jast dude who was supposed to "check" my skins. The second guy Lugin could be also Jast's account or somehow related to him since he added me before I settled with Flow on any trade (my suspicion is based on the similarity of their typing. also really suspicious is the fact Lugin sent me Flow's profile URL when I've pointed out that dude he said is legit item verifier is actually flagged on this site as a fraud.) So what I'm thinking is that Jast used alt account to settle with me to a trade and told me to add him on his main acc pretending the two accounts don't know each other and then also added me with Lugin to pretend as someone completely different to convince me to go into the first trade regarding the item "verifying" thing. I mean it makes sense if you read between the lines in the both convos (Flow and Lugin).

I'm writing report on Flow since I'm 100% sure it was him but I'm suggesting it could be Jast's alt account since it looks unused (and bought).